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Post by Jean Lemieux on Sept 10, 2015 19:53:31 GMT -5
You better start, the country have been doing so for forty years and you learned it in school. You don't have to be condescending. The majority of posters on this forum are from the United States where Imperial remains the majority measuring system. Yes, that is the biggest handicap of these fans forums. Although I have met some US residents that use the metric system more than Max does.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Sept 10, 2015 19:57:00 GMT -5
You better start, the country have been doing so for forty years and you learned it in school. The majority of posters on this forum are from the United States where Imperial remains the majority measuring system. Honestly, I do not feel there is any particular need. Jon, you are completely correct in your statement. Adding to this, the majority tradesman and woman here in British Columbia use the Imperial system anyway. An electrician alone (which I'm planning to become) would rarely need to use Metric measurements. For example, all junction boxes list their size in cubic inches (not centimeters) and wire thickness is determined using the American Wire Gauge (AWG). Unless a drastic change occurs, I'm happy with my current comprehension of the Metric system. It shows how metrication in Canada or at least in some parts of Canada was just a big joke and that too many people live according to what the US does. Australia certainly does not have that problem and is a country issue of British empire.
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Post by Max C. on Sept 10, 2015 21:13:52 GMT -5
It shows how metrication in Canada or at least in some parts of Canada was just a big joke and that too many people live according to what the US does. Australia certainly does not have that problem and is a country issue of British empire. I do not see the Imperial System as an obstacle whatsoever, regardless of who was originally behind it and who chooses to adopt it. If you go to any home improvement center, I guarantee you all cables and plastic junction boxes will have their sizes in a metric measurement (with the exception of temperature ratings). Why convert these values to Metric when a significant percentage of people in the trade use Imperial? It simply does not make sense.
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Post by JW on Sept 10, 2015 22:48:37 GMT -5
Screws, bolts, etc. come in both metric and Imperial. They are not compatible. In this case it is beneficial to know both.
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Post by Max C. on Sept 11, 2015 14:56:11 GMT -5
Screws, bolts, etc. come in both metric and Imperial. They are not compatible. In this case it is beneficial to know both. Most major fan manufacturers use Imperial screws. However I once had to purchase Metric screws for a late 90's SMC UB42, so being familiar with both systems could indeed be helpful in a case such as this. Electricians on the other hand usually toss Metric out the window. For example, take this fan-rated junction box. You'll notice that the provided measurements (including screws) are in Imperial, with the exception of weight capacity which is both Metric and Imperial: www.homedepot.ca/product/ceiling-fan-box-2-1-8-inches-deep-nmd90/421377The measurements for Romex cable are more dependent upon Metric though (as the temperature rating is provided in Celsius and the length in meters). Many people in the trade will usually ignore meters and just end up converting the length to feet, however: www.homedepot.ca/product/electrical-cable-150-copper-electrical-wire-gauge-14-2-romex-simpull-nmd90-/966020In essence Metric definitely has it's place, although many in British Columbia - myself included - use Imperial (especially in the trades).
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Sept 11, 2015 15:56:57 GMT -5
Before I joined this forum it was practically a US enclave, which is why I took so long to join. Almost never we would see SI measures used and apparently using a language other than English was a crime. When other members from Canada started to join, even if they were from outside of Québec, I was happy to see them joining. I though that finally we could understand each others but then I realized that almost all of the ones outside of Québec have no clue what a meter is. I guess now you can understand my surprise and disappointment. To me a Canadian around my age or younger that would not use the metric system was something exotic. I can tell you that for electricians, especially the ones born before after 1969, it's really not like this in Québec. If you go by what stickers and boxes of commercial products tells you, I hope that you don't write like what we see in instructions booklets. Very interesting map. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_System_of_Units#/media/File:SI-metrication-world.png
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Post by Max C. on Sept 11, 2015 20:07:05 GMT -5
Before I joined this forum it was practically a US enclave, which is why I took so long to join. Almost never we would see SI measures used and apparently using a language other than English was a crime. When other members from Canada started to join, even if they were from outside of Québec, I was happy to see them joining. I though that finally we could understand each others but then I realized that almost all of the ones outside of Québec have no clue what a meter is. I guess now you can understand my surprise and disappointment. To me a Canadian around my age or younger that would not use the metric system was something exotic. Quebec is definitely Metric-driven. Here in British Columbia, most people know what a meter is, however few actively use it as a measurement. Inches (and fractions thereof), feet and yards are more prevalent. It is worth noting that most of my local friends (who aren't planning to go into trades) are more likely to use Metric though... I can tell you that for electricians, especially the ones born before after 1969, it's really not like this in Québec. So cubic inches are converted to cubic centimeters? If you go by what stickers and boxes of commercial products tells you, I hope that you don't write like what we see in instructions booklets. What do you mean? Interesting indeed! Most of Canada is relatively undecided until you arrive in Quebec.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Sept 11, 2015 22:08:03 GMT -5
You live according to what it says on commercial products for measures. In instructions booklet they are often spelling mistakes and phrases that are not worded correctly. Like that spelling mistake that Canarm had on their boxes of CP series for the past sixteen years or more. Younger people and the ones that did more advanced studies simply use metric measures. Decided? You mean undecided? That map is not commonly seen. Canada is usually represented as a metric country hence why I find absurd and difficult to believe what happens in British Columbia. Usually we see this: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syst%C3%A8me_international_d%27unit%C3%A9s#/media/File:Metrication_by_year_map.svg
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Post by Max C. on Sept 14, 2015 19:33:49 GMT -5
You live according to what it says on commercial products for measures. In instructions booklet they are often spelling mistakes and phrases that are not worded correctly. Like that spelling mistake that Canarm had on their boxes of CP series for the past sixteen years or more. Of course I do. If many here in British Columbia (myself included) are familiar with the Imperial system, why convert a measurement listed on a product to Metric? Decided? You mean undecided? Yes, I did mean undecided.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Sept 15, 2015 1:36:47 GMT -5
Yikes!
Because it should be totally natural for you to use and think with the metric system.
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Post by Max C. on Sept 15, 2015 22:29:04 GMT -5
Yikes! Because it should be totally natural for you to use and think with the metric system. Why? Again, most tradesmen and women here in British Columbia would not use Metric for the majority of measurements...
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Post by Max C. on Oct 16, 2015 14:44:13 GMT -5
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 17, 2015 19:22:24 GMT -5
The Casablanca Trident and Hampton Bay Sidewinder aren't really my preference in style, but I quite like everything else here.. That Hunter Original is just like the one that I have.. Very odd that they find it necessary to specify that the SMC is electric.. What else is it going to be?
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Post by Max C. on Oct 19, 2015 19:49:48 GMT -5
Very odd that they find it necessary to specify that the SMC is electric.. What else is it going to be? I have seen a few sellers add "electric" in their titles for whatever reason. To be fair, the first ceiling fans were water-powered, however there is no reason to specify that it requires electricity today.
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Post by Noah C on Oct 19, 2015 23:05:32 GMT -5
Very odd that they find it necessary to specify that the SMC is electric.. What else is it going to be? I have seen a few sellers add "electric" in their titles for whatever reason. To be fair, the first ceiling fans were water-powered, however there is no reason to specify that it requires electricity today. Maybe they installed a microscopic petrol-electric fuel converter in there !
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