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Post by Perrey on Mar 31, 2004 19:34:00 GMT -5
What do you think are the differences between American made and imported fans?, post the advantages and disadvantages of both.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2004 20:11:09 GMT -5
One thing I've been noticing recently is that most if not all American made fans have K55 motors and flywheels. Most if not all import fans have spinner motors.
I was just thinking about this earlier. I cannot name a spinner-motor fan that was entirely made in America, spinners tend to be an import thing. I can name a few K55-type-motor fans made overseas, especially in today's current lineup, but I stand by my generalization that flywheel-motor fans are an American made thing, spinner motor fans are an import thing.
This is not necessarily a bad thing for import fans. There are some very good quality spinner motors. Take the massive iron Ritz motors, for example. But the thing about a K55 motor fan is a *know* i'm getting a good fan. There's no question about it. There are good spinners and there are bad spinners, spinners with high torque and low torque, good bearings and bad bearings . . . but who ever heard of a bad K55 motor fan? They're all quiet, and they all move a good amount of air.
Also, most American made fans where the metal was cast here, they're more solid construction. Compare a Casablanca motor housing to a builder fan motor housing. You have a better chance of running across real wood blades as well.
But these days, even the fans that are "made in America" are assembled from parts from overseas. The true fully made in America fans, like the Tara where the blades were made in Canada (ok, not the US but North America), the metal was cast in both Texas and Minnesota, the motors came from the American GE plants, and the fans were assembled in Tyler Texas . . . are no more. We want inexpensive products, and so we turn to inexpensive labor in inexpensive locations.
That having been said, there's no reason why a plant overseas couldnt churn out just as quality a fan as an American plant. No reason they couldnt have wound those beautiful Hunter Original motors overseas, instead of cheapening the product along with the labor. It's not where something's made, it's the quality of production. It jsut so happens that usually the quality of production is lower overseas. But there can be exceptions.
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Post by organist89 on Mar 31, 2004 21:39:28 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2004 14:24:13 GMT -5
Hmm, no one else has anything to say on this topic? Other than correcting my typo?
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Post by james pinette on Apr 7, 2004 15:54:40 GMT -5
i think that american ceiling fans are much better than eurpoean james
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2004 16:13:29 GMT -5
i think that american ceiling fans are much better than eurpoean james I'm not familiar with very many European fans, and the ones I am familiar with I believe were made in Asia. Andrew made mention of an industrial fan he has that I believe was made in Great Britain, am I right?
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Perrey
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Post by Perrey on Apr 11, 2004 15:51:12 GMT -5
There's a Casablanca fan Co. on Italy not related to our Casa. Their fans are weird looking. With all thouse good things they export, i'm surprise they haven't got into to fan business.
In the Deutcheland they have Casafan, An importer of fans produce in Taiwan., nothing fancy there, they offer 29", 42" and 52" huggers in Chrome., and a few others we've seen and some we haven't seen yet.
I'll get the links for them later.
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Post by Perrey on Apr 11, 2004 17:01:53 GMT -5
Some European fan links. Germany www.casafan.de/For english, click the British flag. United Kingdom importer www.fantasia-fans.co.ukDistributor/e-Tailer www.ceilingfan.co.ukCheck out the former Encons under the Westinghouse brand., Boy they have some nice ones overseas. On the designer section they have Minka's e-Motion and viper., the importer {Fantasia} offer them in 42". Also the 30" Spinnaker, I've seen them only in 52". Too bad they won't export...
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Post by Farah on Apr 11, 2004 18:16:27 GMT -5
I've just checked out those sites and I think they have the best fans on there. I personally like the Classic style fans with the wood on one side and cane/wood on the other. My two favorite colors are Antique Bass and the Black one. I wish they would expot them here in the states. I would like of the those fans and I'll bet they are much better than the american ones offered. So I have to go with the import ceiling fans. ;D TEXT
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Post by ulkesh54 on Apr 11, 2004 18:23:51 GMT -5
My vote is for Casablanca, especially the DD models that move more air than an American made Original! That new XTR-200 looks really promising! ;D
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Post by organist89 on Apr 11, 2004 20:02:24 GMT -5
...they offer 29", 42", and 52" huggers in Chrome... If you go to eBay's German site (http://www.ebay.de), and type in "deckenventilator" (which is German for ceiling fan), you'll notice that chrome is quite popular in German ceiling fans. You will also see a lot of 3-metal-blade industrial fans with a switch housing and 3-speed pull chain.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2004 21:31:00 GMT -5
I've seen these same fans under another name somewhere on the web. Some of the "designer" models are the same as Quorum. And as for the other site, the former Encons, I never liked that manufacturer, but they do have some cool designs overseas. And glad to see that people havent given up on cane.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2004 21:37:10 GMT -5
I would like of the those fans and I'll bet they are much better than the american ones offered. So I have to go with the import ceiling fans. I think you're a little confused. The original post question was about where the fans are made, versus were they're sold. Just because they offer a different line of fans sold in the US than in the UK, they're still all made in Taiwan. As, to my knowledge, there are no fans actually made in America any more, we're talking about older fans that were made here . . . like the Hunter Original, the older Casablancas, Old Jacksonvilles, Key Largos, Taras , Emersons . . . fans that are no longer made. And we're comparing those to fans made overseas from all eras, including today's import lines. Perrey's links were great examples of current import fans that are sold overseas. However you do raise an interesting question: where did the design of putting cane on fan blades originate? I've seen import fans with cane from prior to the first Casablanca, but of course Hunter Originals with cane came before that. I dont recall seeing any *antique* ceiling fans (1950s and before) with cane. Was the Hunter Original the first fan to have cane? I doubt it, but I dont really know the history.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2004 21:38:59 GMT -5
My vote is for Casablanca, especially the DD models that move more air than an American made Original! That new XTR-200 looks really promising! ;D I jsut have my doubts that, regardless of the specs of the motor, the end result will be a fan that performs better and/or is better quality than some of the great ceiling fans of our time (Hunter Originals, K55 Casablancas, etc).
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Post by ulkesh54 on Apr 12, 2004 15:15:19 GMT -5
I jsut have my doubts that, regardless of the specs of the motor, the end result will be a fan that performs better and/or is better quality than some of the great ceiling fans of our time (Hunter Originals, K55 Casablancas, etc). Perrey has some and says that they do indeed move more air than an Original. I'm a big fan of Originals and K55s/XLPs, but it seems like these fans are the next step in performance, if not aesthetics. Hopefully, Casablanca will keep all of their older designs and maybe even cane blades will come back in style. ;D
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