Sedan vs Crossover

[Parkman]

What are your opinions on each and what do you prefer?

[Cole D]

I've always preferred sedans myself for some reason. No experience with crossovers but pretty much all of my family has crossovers and SUVs now. My grandma has an HRV, one aunt and uncle have a Rav 4 and others have a Navigator and other have an Outback as the main vehicle. I think one of my cousins has an Odyssey but other than that no more sedans or minivans.

I can see the utility with a crossover sitting higher and a little more cargo room while still getting better mileage than an SUV.

I notice also all of the American manufacturers are getting out of sedans, they've all been discontinued or planning to, while the Japanese and Korean manufacturers still seem to be going steady.

A sedan really does all I need to do, my Taurus has a ginormous trunk and I can fold down the rear seats and have plenty of room. My old Malibu had a big trunk too although it didn't have the seat fold option. Plus I rarely have anyone in the backseat ever.

Personally if I was to get a bigger vehicle I'd probably go with a more mid size SUV like the Ford Explorer or one of the Hyundai or Kia offerings. Or maybe a Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia.

[Parkman]

Cole you are right it’s amazing how many people have gotten rid of there sedans for crossovers.

I fee two big things working against sedans are one they’ve sloped the roof in the rear so much it cuts your headroom significantly the other being so many cars are way too low. Toyota Camrys I know are a tad higher, the Taurus is too I believe but her Elantra is literally like getting into a Mustang or Corvette it’s so low.

Appearance wise I feel sedans are better looking and it’s kind of nice have your junk hidden in the trunk. Lol.

My mother in law and uncle in the last 6 months just made the sedan to suv jump. She loves it and isn’t going back.. he hates his and is actively looking for something else but problem is finding anything with a V6 that isn’t a truck. I keep reading gen z and millennials prefer sedans I am a millennial and my hips are starting to prefer a crossover as well as my knees getting out of it.

[Parkman]

May 25, 2021 22:49:29 GMT -5 Cole D said:

I've always preferred sedans myself for some reason. No experience with crossovers but pretty much all of my family has crossovers and SUVs now. My grandma has an HRV, one aunt and uncle have a Rav 4 and others have a Navigator and other have an Outback as the main vehicle. I think one of my cousins has an Odyssey but other than that no more sedans or minivans.

I can see the utility with a crossover sitting higher and a little more cargo room while still getting better mileage than an SUV.

I notice also all of the American manufacturers are getting out of sedans, they've all been discontinued or planning to, while the Japanese and Korean manufacturers still seem to be going steady.

A sedan really does all I need to do, my Taurus has a ginormous trunk and I can fold down the rear seats and have plenty of room. My old Malibu had a big trunk too although it didn't have the seat fold option. Plus I rarely have anyone in the backseat ever.

Personally if I was to get a bigger vehicle I'd probably go with a more mid size SUV like the Ford Explorer or one of the Hyundai or Kia offerings. Or maybe a Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia.

I looked at quite a few suvs if I was buying one for myself Hyundai Santa Fe hands down. It’s a big five seater I find the back rows useless in many large crossovers just suck it up and get a van at that point. The Acadia I liked too. We’re going with the Kia Sportage since my wife liked the visibility in that. The new Ford Escape was horrible to see out the back!

I like the look of Subaru’s but unless they get rid of that cvt my monies going elsewhere.

[Cole D]

I wouldn't be surprised if millennials/Z prefer sedans. The Focus, Fusion, Sonata, Corolla, and Elantra seem popular with people my age. I don't know anyone else who drives a Taurus though, I think the Taurus is mostly an old people car. LOL Which makes sense because I think it was meant to replace the Crown Victoria/Town Car platform IIRC, although they did go on for another year or two after the final gen Taurus first came out. In fact, I think the earlier gen Five Hundred/Montego that later renamed Taurus/Sable was actually supposed to do that too when it first came out, but for some reason it didn't happen.

[becausecanadia]

If I had to choose, sedan all the way.

But in the grand scheme of things, a hatchback car or wagon is the best of both worlds.

[Parkman]

May 30, 2021 14:38:59 GMT -5 Cole D said:

I wouldn't be surprised if millennials/Z prefer sedans. The Focus, Fusion, Sonata, Corolla, and Elantra seem popular with people my age. I don't know anyone else who drives a Taurus though, I think the Taurus is mostly an old people car. LOL Which makes sense because I think it was meant to replace the Crown Victoria/Town Car platform IIRC, although they did go on for another year or two after the final gen Taurus first came out. In fact, I think the earlier gen Five Hundred/Montego that later renamed Taurus/Sable was actually supposed to do that too when it first came out, but for some reason it didn't happen.

I figure cost must be a factor as well. It pisses me off how the full-size sedan has died off continually especially with Cadillac and Lincoln. We just traded in our Elantra but I’d still recommend it as the best compact sedan even with the cvt it’s better driving then everything else in that class.

One of my moms friends has a last gen Taurus she loves it. She had countless grand marquis’ then a 300 (piece of junk!), montego then Taurus. She’s now in her mid 50s still loves the Taurus.

There’s a couple articles I read where the CEO that took over ford said how can we allow the nameplate to die and then renamed it with the mid cycle refresh. But between the auto crisis with the recession and the suv crossover craze coming the Taurus nameplate is what it is. I wish they kept the fusion for a while longer in production.

We just bought a Sportage this past week, I don’t see my wife going back to a sedan ever it just has too many conveniences the sedan didn’t provide. At least in this phase of life.

[Parkman]

May 30, 2021 17:38:40 GMT -5 becausecanadia said:

If I had to choose, sedan all the way.

But in the grand scheme of things, a hatchback car or wagon is the best of both worlds.

That’s what I laugh about crossovers are basically jacket up hatchbacks or curvy modified wagons and then full size crossovers are minivans with traditional doors. Yet you get a wagon or van it’s uncool but tweak it and call it a crossover and start printing money!

[Cole D]

May 30, 2021 22:58:45 GMT -5 Parkman said:

May 30, 2021 14:38:59 GMT -5 Cole D said:

I figure cost must be a factor as well. It pisses me off how the full-size sedan has died off continually especially with Cadillac and Lincoln. We just traded in our Elantra but I’d still recommend it as the best compact sedan even with the cvt it’s better driving then everything else in that class.

One of my moms friends has a last gen Taurus she loves it. She had countless grand marquis’ then a 300 (piece of junk!), montego then Taurus. She’s now in her mid 50s still loves the Taurus.

There’s a couple articles I read where the CEO that took over ford said how can we allow the nameplate to die and then renamed it with the mid cycle refresh. But between the auto crisis with the recession and the suv crossover craze coming the Taurus nameplate is what it is. I wish they kept the fusion for a while longer in production.

We just bought a Sportage this past week, I don’t see my wife going back to a sedan ever it just has too many conveniences the sedan didn’t provide. At least in this phase of life.

I remember part of it was in the mid 2000s Ford wanted all of their vehicle names to start with the letter F: F-series, Fiesta, Focus, Fusion, Five Hundred. While the Mercuries to start with M: Montego, Mariner, Mountaineer.

It was kind of a silly idea and where they messed up is the Five Hundred/Montego was essentially supposed to be the next generation of the Taurus/Sable, but nobody recognized the names. Of course the Five Hundred/Montego names were well known before, they hadn't been used in years so nobody knew what the car was supposed to be, and from what I understand they lost a lot of sales. So hence, renaming them back.

I did like the Fusion, the newer ones especially with the LED front lighting. I really like the LED running lights that cars have now and I wish Ford had updated the Taurus to include more of the features that the Fusion ended up having but for some reason they never did. For some reason Ford did not include fog lights on the Taurus and it has little slits of light there instead. I guess they're supposed to be parking lights, I think they are LED but they aren't as bright as the lights on the Fusion, etc.

I agree on the jacked up hatchback thing. I felt like when Ford redesigned the Escape in 2020 that that's what it basically became, but it's just the styling. I really liked the 2008 refresh of the Escape, a friend had one she got a great deal on as it was going to auction. Green with cream interior, beautiful color combo. I also liked how that gen seemed to take some designs from the older late 90s/early 00s Explorer, or at least I thought so on the grille.

[Cole D]

Oh, and on the Chrysler, for some reason I did not like the design of the Chrysler/Dodge vehicles that started coming out in 2005 or so like the 300 and Charger. A lot of people complained about the interiors on those like the 300 were entirely hard plastic and the shapes were just squared off and ugly to me at least. They don't bother me now really but back then I thought they were really stepping back with those. I guess it really started around 2004 or so with some models. Like the 2004 Durango I thought never looked as good as the first gen that was more curvy. Now though I kind of have grown to like them.

I think they knew it was a problem because after Fiat got control of Chrysler in 2011 they redid all the interiors with softer materials and more organic shapes. And the exteriors were refreshed to be more streamlined somewhat. A good example is the 2008-2010 Town and Country and Grand Caravan when I first saw the pictures of them back in 2006 or 07 I thought they were completely hideous. Then in 2011 they immediately got all new interiors and redid the front and rear clips.

[Parkman]

I recall that. The thing that still blows my mind is the Five Hundred had a CVT something I never knew until a year ago.

And that to this day is still an argument was the Five Hundred the replacement to the Taurus or the Fusion. So many people I remember debating that. I mean my wife had a 2002 Sable.. Was it a midsize or was it a full size technically by the length it was a Full size but then everyone considers it the Fusions replacement by volume. Then I've heard the arguement well the Fusion replaced the Contour. Idk where to go in my head it makes sense the Fusion replaced the Taurus and the Five Hundred/Taurus replaced the Crown Victoria but I guess to each his own lol.

I think the Taurus ultimately got screwed by the Explorer Police Interceptor. Thats my pet peeve I fully support the police but come on do they really need SUV's or can't they have a Sedan thats at least $10k cheaper.

The 2008 Escape was once car my wife always wanted and she still would love something comparable. We looked at the Bronco Sport was a cool car technically a successor tfor the boxy ford. No shoulder room at all so it was out for me. We looked at Escapes back in 2017 but the Ecoboost I was skeptical of and we couldn't afford one at the time.

[Parkman]

I find the history of Chrysler fascinating however despite their several different owners and all I would still not buy anything by them. I found the original 300 to be unique and definitely had a cult following. The Charger was cool looking I feel they screwed up naming it that and should have made the Challenger the Charger and it would have just made more sense. The 300 now I really like the 2015+ ones not for the baller look or whatever but that its an old school sedan and is still being made (well for now at least).

I agree the Durango looked horrible in that generation. I know a bunch of people who loved the 1st Generation Durango and 2nd Gen Dakota and when they did their DaimlerChrysler redesigns they dropped the ball and people went elsewhere due to the looks and the size increase.

Fiat/FCA definitely did an awesome job with the interiors. I felt like the Dodge's all looked awkward with the change of Ram getting split and them not having a true logo at that point it was somewhat transitionary. Chrysler I actually felt when the new 200 came out could have done something even though cars were starting to go out but I always thought if they rebadged the Fiat's they tried to sell as Chrysler you could have sold some and had a newer even non retro version of the PT Cruiser. Thats one car that was popular but no one talks about anymore and you hardly see them in my area anymore.. well then again there Chrysler products

[Cole D]

I've noticed I tend to prefer the full size sedans. I really like the newer Nissan Maxima, they look very classy yet space age as well. I liked the older ones too I think the 2004+ or so that had the two glass roofs in the center. The GM full sizers too like the later Impala and especially the later LaCrosse, they were beautiful designs to me. The Toyota Avalon especially the 2005+ models. I know Honda doesn't have a sedan in that category but the 2008+ Accords I loved the styling of too.

Crossovers just didn't do it for me as to the styling for some reason. I've kind of grown to like Ford's late 2000s/early 2010s styling though. In ways I think late 2000s/early 2010s cars had the best set of safety and technology features without being too complicated.

[Parkman]

I’ve always preferred full size sedans myself.

My wife now has her crossover I love getting into it but besides that I’d probably get a sedan I find the trunk to be more useful now granted that would only be if a midsize truck was not available lol.

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anybody here likes tesla?