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Post by Jordan U on Oct 15, 2014 14:56:13 GMT -5
Very nice fan! I hope that you enjoy it. Thanks! I'm actually enjoying it right now, I have it going on low. It runs quite smooth for what it is.
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Post by Noah C on Oct 18, 2014 23:50:40 GMT -5
Jordan, CFM is an indicator of how much air your ceiling fan moves. A higher CFM means your fan moves more air. 4,469 cfm, honestly, is not very good (no offense) while 5,800 CFM and up is great. Now, what I just said depends on the size and quality of the fan. CFM translates into wind speed. A wind speed of >3 MPH is poor, whereas a wind speed of <4.5 MPH is good. EX: take a 50" emerson apollo ceiling fan that moves a ton of air (6,460 CFM), and a 56" emerson apollo that moves the same amount of air (yes emerson Apollo fans were sold in 56"). The 50" one will feel like it moves more air, but the air is more concentrated and in one area resulting in a higher wind speed, while the 56" one is distributing the air over a bigger area resulting in a lower wind speed. Yes, wind speed has to do with RPM, but very slightly.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 19, 2014 15:32:07 GMT -5
Jordan, CFM is an indicator of how much air your ceiling fan moves. A higher CFM means your fan moves more air. 4,469 cfm, honestly, is not very good (no offense) while 5,800 CFM and up is great. Now, what I just said depends on the size and quality of the fan. CFM translates into wind speed. A wind speed of >3 MPH is poor, whereas a wind speed of <4.5 MPH is good. EX: take a 50" emerson apollo ceiling fan that moves a ton of air (6,460 CFM), and a 56" emerson apollo that moves the same amount of air (yes emerson Apollo fans were sold in 56"). The 50" one will feel like it moves more air, but the air is more concentrated and in one area resulting in a higher wind speed, while the 56" one is distributing the air over a bigger area resulting in a lower wind speed. Yes, wind speed has to do with RPM, but very slightly. I know, when I said "whatever that means", I was referring to the fact that they put "moves up to" in front of it, as if I should expect it to be less than that in most situations. ~4,500 isn't bad for a builder fan, but 6,000 is much better. My Panama is somewhere around 7,000 with 4 blades I believe.
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Post by Noah C on Oct 23, 2014 19:21:06 GMT -5
Jordan, CFM is an indicator of how much air your ceiling fan moves. A higher CFM means your fan moves more air. 4,469 cfm, honestly, is not very good (no offense) while 5,800 CFM and up is great. Now, what I just said depends on the size and quality of the fan. CFM translates into wind speed. A wind speed of >3 MPH is poor, whereas a wind speed of <4.5 MPH is good. EX: take a 50" emerson apollo ceiling fan that moves a ton of air (6,460 CFM), and a 56" emerson apollo that moves the same amount of air (yes emerson Apollo fans were sold in 56"). The 50" one will feel like it moves more air, but the air is more concentrated and in one area resulting in a higher wind speed, while the 56" one is distributing the air over a bigger area resulting in a lower wind speed. Yes, wind speed has to do with RPM, but very slightly. I know, when I said "whatever that means", I was referring to the fact that they put "moves up to" in front of it, as if I should expect it to be less than that in most situations. ~4,500 isn't bad for a builder fan, but 6,000 is much better. My Panama is somewhere around 7,000 with 4 blades I believe. Most 50-54" stack motor fans will move around 6,000 to 7,000 CFM with 5 blades, and 7,000 to 8,000 with 4. A Casablanca panama, like an average stack motor fan, will move around 6000 CFM on high speed with 5 blades (6,228 to be exact) and around 7,000 CFM with 4 blades (7,079 to be exact). When they put the "up to" in front of the CFM, then you should expect it to be less in most instances. Home store fans tend to vary greatly in speed and CFM and proper testing isn't conducted, whereas with a more reliable brand, the CFM and speed of motor is set in stone. So if your fan is moving up to 4,469 CFM, then it is probably worse. That is, actually pretty bad for a fan of its size and class (builder), as the average is around 5,150 CFM (about 4 MPH wind speed); no offence.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 23, 2014 20:21:03 GMT -5
Most 50-54" stack motor fans will move around 6,000 to 7,000 CFM with 5 blades, and 7,000 to 8,000 with 4. A Casablanca panama, like an average stack motor fan, will move around 6000 CFM on high speed with 5 blades (6,228 to be exact) and around 7,000 CFM with 4 blades (7,079 to be exact). When they put the "up to" in front of the CFM, then you should expect it to be less in most instances. Home store fans tend to vary greatly in speed and CFM and proper testing isn't conducted, whereas with a more reliable brand, the CFM and speed of motor is set in stone. So if your fan is moving up to 4,469 CFM, then it is probably worse. That is, actually pretty bad for a fan of its size and class (builder), as the average is around 5,150 CFM (about 4 MPH wind speed); no offence.How did you get that average? Its pretty precise...
Anyways builder fans aren't exactly quality, I don't think over 5,000 CFM is a typical builder fan. I have a $150 52" Hunter in my house which is better than a builder fan, but just barely breaks 5,000 if I remember correctly.
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Post by Max C. on Oct 23, 2014 21:28:50 GMT -5
How did you get that average? Its pretty precise... My guess is they measured a variety of builder-grade fans and just made an estimate of the "average" CFM rating. Anyways builder fans aren't exactly quality, I don't think over 5,000 CFM is a typical builder fan. I have a $150 52" Hunter in my house which is better than a builder fan, but just barely breaks 5,000 if I remember correctly. Your Hunter Waldon? Oh come on, your Hampton Bay Brookhurst is higher quality then that
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 23, 2014 21:33:41 GMT -5
How did you get that average? Its pretty precise... My guess is they measured a variety of builder-grade fans and just made an estimate of the "average" CFM rating. Anyways builder fans aren't exactly quality, I don't think over 5,000 CFM is a typical builder fan. I have a $150 52" Hunter in my house which is better than a builder fan, but just barely breaks 5,000 if I remember correctly. Your Hunter Waldon? Oh come on, your Hampton Bay Brookhurst is higher quality then that I find it hard to believe builder fans are only a thousand CFM behind decent stack motor fans like Panamas.
The Waldon is actually rated at a higher air movement rate than the Brookhurst, though I personally do like the Brookhurst better.
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Post by Max C. on Oct 25, 2014 13:11:08 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe builder fans are only a thousand CFM behind decent stack motor fans like Panamas. That's true. A modern-day Panama doesn't actually blow a whole lot more air than let's say a Hampton Bay. In fact, some higher-end Hampton Bay models blow more air then Casablanca Panama's. The Waldon is actually rated at a higher air movement rate than the Brookhurst, though I personally do like the Brookhurst better. Honestly, I'd say the problem is speed. The fan only spins at 174 RPM on high speed, so of course it's not going to blow a ton of air. If, however it were to spin at 274 RPM, it would probably blow close to double the amount of it does now.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 26, 2014 17:51:36 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe builder fans are only a thousand CFM behind decent stack motor fans like Panamas. That's true. A modern-day Panama doesn't actually blow a whole lot more air than let's say a Hampton Bay. In fact, some higher-end Hampton Bay models blow more air then Casablanca Panama's. I could see older Hampton Bay fans moving more than 7,000 CFM, but what modern one does?
I hate to say it, but Casablanca Panama shouldn't be possessive in that sentence.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 26, 2014 17:53:22 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd say the problem is speed. The fan only spins at 174 RPM's on high speed, so of course it's not going to blow a ton of air. If, however it were to spin at 274 RPM's, it would probably blow close to double the amount of it does now. I think its more of a blade pitch problem. If you spin up the Brookhurst to 174 RPM (also should not be possessive), there's going to be a lot of noise. If you increase the blade pitch, you will get the same increased airflow affect. The Panama doesn't run much faster than the Brookhurst, actually I think it may run a little slower even, but it moves much more air because the blades are pitched probably double that of the Brookhurst.
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 8, 2015 20:37:28 GMT -5
This fan looks a lot like the Hampton Bay Huntington I.
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 10, 2015 11:22:14 GMT -5
This fan looks a lot like the Hampton Bay Huntington I. True.. That's really the only reason why I like it because it has somewhat of a more traditional style to it..
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 10, 2015 12:39:47 GMT -5
This fan looks a lot like the Hampton Bay Huntington I. True.. That's really the only reason why I like it because it has somewhat of a more traditional style to it..
I remember taking a walk down the ceiling fan isle at Home Depot about 2 weeks ago. The Brookhurst immediately stood out to me because of its traditional look. It reminds me a lot of a Huntington I. In fact it looks like a slightly modified version of it. How much was that fan again?
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 11, 2015 10:05:14 GMT -5
I remember taking a walk down the ceiling fan isle at Home Depot about 2 weeks ago. The Brookhurst immediately stood out to me because of its traditional look. It reminds me a lot of a Huntington I. In fact it looks like a slightly modified version of it. How much was that fan again? I believe it was around $50.. Not sure if its changed since then.. Its really not a bad fan for that price,, Its been running more or less continuously since I got it and its still going strong, no signs of failure or deterioration.. Granted it doesn't move all that much air but at least it still runs well..
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 11, 2015 14:04:52 GMT -5
I remember taking a walk down the ceiling fan isle at Home Depot about 2 weeks ago. The Brookhurst immediately stood out to me because of its traditional look. It reminds me a lot of a Huntington I. In fact it looks like a slightly modified version of it. How much was that fan again? I believe it was around $50.. Not sure if its changed since then.. Its really not a bad fan for that price,, Its been running more or less continuously since I got it and its still going strong, no signs of failure or deterioration.. Granted it doesn't move all that much air but at least it still runs well..I might have to get myself one of these fans then. Especially sense I've always wanted a Huntington I, this might be a close second for it. The newer Huntingtons are alright it's just their blades droop for no reason after a certain amount of time.
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