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Post by Max C. on Jan 9, 2015 22:17:28 GMT -5
Very nice fans you have there. Enjoy them! Thanks Farah!
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Post by Max C. on Jan 18, 2015 22:59:40 GMT -5
Wrapping Up 2014 - Part One Of ThreeTo begin this update, here are videos of the Canarm BDF FA-42 and the Hampton Bay Sidewinder respectively: Also here are some pictures of the Canarm Paragon and Hampton Bay Florentines, as shown below. 135X15 motor in the Canarm Paragon. You definitely don't see Canarm using motors this large for their 42" fans today! Shrink wrap tubing over the connectors for the light kit. I can't say I've ever seen this before: Fan installed: Video: Now for the Hampton Bay Florentines. Whoever installed these was clearly in a huge rush, as two of the fans were missing the washers for the blades, and one of the downrods was installed upside down. Thankfully, the fans weren't terribly beat-up, besides some pencil marks on one of the blade sets, and a broken pull-chain switch. Blade with the washers installed the wrong way: Before (left) and after (right): Broken pull chain switch with. It appears as if the previous owners taped one of the wires in a rather bizarre attempt to ensure the fan was "child-proof." Also, one of the three fans featured a note on the reverse switch about fan direction: Airworks Windsor. Oddly enough, this fan wasn't manufactured by SMC or even Zhongshan Wei He. At first, I was at a loss about who actually made this fan, as the UL File Listing (E106510) had expired. However, a quick search revealed the manufacturer was "Ja Yang" (at least, according the PDF document below): www.seagulllighting.com/InstructionSheets/16004-15-ENG.pdfThis is also the manufacturer of this Windsor And Brown Casablanca Mercury Copy that Cole filmed last August: Motor. Although bigger than the SMC version, it's still only a 153X10: Fan installed:
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Post by Jordan U on Jan 20, 2015 10:37:21 GMT -5
Wrapping Up 2014 - Part One Of Two You better start wrapping up rapidly, we're well into 2015 now!Those light-bulbs (if you can even call them that) in there are an eyesore! But other than that, the fan itself looks pretty good. Now that I'm seeing this fully assembled, I really don't like it. The blades just don't look good. Also here are some pictures of the Canarm Paragon Hampton Bay Florentines as shown below. What? Shrink wrap tubing over the connectors for the light kit. I can't say I've ever seen this before I have seen this before, pretty cheesy alright! I think the Brookhurst may be like this. Fan installed: I don't like the light kit, and I don't think its just because its got CFLs or because the picture is blurry. It really needs a fourth light... Blade with the washers installed the wrong way Now that is something I don't think I've ever seen before! Whoever put those together must be a dimwit. Broken pull chain switch with. It appears as if the previous owners taped one of the wires in a rather bizarre attempt to ensure the fan was "child-proof." Have they ever heard of wire nuts? Also, one of the three fans featured a note on the reverse switch about fan direction: So they know this much, but they can't figure out how to attach blades to the blade irons? Unbelievable. Zhongshan Wei He!!!!!!!!! Ja Yang!!!!!!! Those sound like good ones! Motor. Although bigger than the SMC version, it's still only a 153X10: Where do you get these measurements from? Why not embed that?
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Post by Max C. on Jan 20, 2015 23:25:54 GMT -5
You better start wrapping up rapidly, we're well into 2015 now! "Well into?" It's not May yet Those light-bulbs (if you can even call them that) in there are an eyesore! But other than that, the fan itself looks pretty good. - Shouldn't this be reserved for the thread "Types Of Light Bulbs?"
- Thanks for the support on my color choice
Now that I'm seeing this fully assembled, I really don't like it. The blades just don't look good. I could see why you say that... Fixed. I have seen this before, pretty cheesy alright! I think the Brookhurst may be like this. That's quite odd. Maybe it's a new safety standard (although, that wouldn't explain why a fan from 1998 has it). I don't like the light kit, and I don't think its just because its got CFLs or because the picture is blurry. It really needs a fourth light... Honestly, I don't agree. Sure, the CFLs might not look amazing in there, however a fourth light would just end up looking odd. Now that is something I don't think I've ever seen before! Whoever put those together must be a dimwit. Believe it or not, it's amazingly common on fans with stamped steel brackets. I'd say dimwit fits the description, however "rushed" is another good one. Have they ever heard of wire nuts? Nope So they know this much, but they can't figure out how to attach blades to the blade irons? Unbelievable. Oh, I believe it. If you think that's strange, you should see some of the things I've seen included with fans at the ReStore! Those sound like good ones! Zhongshan Wei He is crap. Although Ja Yang didn't produce great fans (at least, from my experience), they have more potential. Where do you get these measurements from? Estimates, mainly. After working with so many motors, I start to recognize the various sizes. Fixed.
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Post by Max C. on Jan 31, 2015 23:36:10 GMT -5
Wrapping Up 2014 - Part Two Of Three12/05/2014 Fan one - Westinghouse Jasmine. Surprisingly enough, the Jasmine is a Home depot Canada-exclusive model that was introduced around 2006 or 2007. I actually bought one of these new in box from the ReStore years ago (prior my volunteering) for only $10.00. That fan currently resides in my friend's living room. Albeit cheap, I do have a bit of a soft spot for these, mainly due to them being childhood fans, and looking cool. Below are some pictures of the fan. The fan came packed in a crate. Apparently, it belonged to somebody named Terry: For some reason, the fan came with this Westinghouse universal remote control kit that has nothing to do with the fan. Since the factory remote control was also included, I decided to use this for an SMC UB42 I picked up that same day: Factory remote control kit: The globe came with a light bulb included. Of course, it was some cheap dollar store garbage. Soon after testing, the bulb failed (go figure). At least the packing job was good though: Instructions: Mounting bracket: Motor housing: Labels: Motor. Although the casing appears quite large, it's only a 153X10 (rough estimate): Fan installed: Fan two - SMC UB42. This was probably one of (if not) the most popular ceiling fans ever sold in Canada. I have probably received almost twenty of these since I started volunteering at the ReStore. This one is happens to be the late 90's version (or generation two) with a 153X12 motor instead of the original 153X15, and an updated mounting system. Below are some pictures of the fan. How the fan came in: Fan that replaced it: Specifications, just in case anybody is interested: Minor blade damage (due to the lack of washers): Since this this fan was not meant to have a remote control, per se, I had to get creative! Fan installed: Video: 12/10/2014 Fan one – SMC A52. Finally, some vintage coolness at the ReStore! Although 2014 has provided a large variety of ceiling fans to work with, few have been anything of substantial quality. This (of course) is an obvious exception to that rule. Being one of the oldest fans of the year (dated 1982), it was certainly a welcomed change from “the rest of the crowd!” Anyways, below are some pictures of this beauty: Fan itself. Notice the long downrod, and the scratches on the blades: Replacement (I apologize for the less than perfect picture): Extension wires to accommodate the longer downrod: Large and heavy Hong Kong-made motor! Fan installed. Notice that there is only one pull chain. At first, I though that was a non-reversible model, however a quick test reveled that the pull chain had a sequence of: Forward, off, reverse, off. This leads me to believe that this was a rare version that was supposed to either include wall or remote control. Later inspection reveled that the sticker on the motor stated the model was “A52-C” (C for control I’d assume). Also, ! since the blades were scratched-up due to poor packaging, I decided to lightly stain them to improve their overall visual appearance (notice the sheen in the pictures below): Since I had to use the fan with a generic remote control to achieve more than one speed, I figured why not add a light kit? So, I made this matching fitter out of some spare parts I had laying around: The result was absolutely beautiful:
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Feb 1, 2015 0:15:56 GMT -5
The SMC A52-C you have is beautiful! Does it work well? How have you been able to take the motor completely out of the housing and where did you found the date on it? I would have thought that this version with the big ball & socket mounting was newer but then this one doesn't have a printed oak finish on the blades but actual stained wood blades. It doesn't have any cane? The tassel came with it? I also have a SMC A52-C but mine is damaged and almost impossible to fix. I thought the C was for closed mount. Mine has a very short pole with a big canopy. I would love to find a motor only for these to be able to repair mine. Beside the bent motor it's in good condition. ada19851985.proboards.com/thread/7909/1980s-smc-a52
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 1, 2015 0:20:08 GMT -5
That brass SMC, the one with the "pucll chain" is great! The lght kit was a great addition to it as well, it fits perfectly. I sure hope you're going to keep this one...?
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Post by Max C. on Feb 1, 2015 13:41:12 GMT -5
The SMC A52-C you have is beautiful! Does it work well? How have you been able to take the motor completely out of the housing and where did you find the date on it? I would have thought that this version with the big ball & socket mounting was newer but then this one doesn't have a printed oak finish on the blades but actual stained wood blades. It doesn't have any cane? The tassel came with it? Taking the motor out wasn't hard. All I did was locate the two screws on the side of the fans yolk (where the downrod attaches) and remove them with an Allen key. The date sticker was inside the canopy. The blades had cane on the other side, however due to poor packaging, it was badly scratched and dented. The tassel was my addition. I also have a SMC A52-C but mine is damaged and almost impossible to fix. I thought the C was for closed mount. Mine has a very short pole with a big canopy. I would love to find a motor only for these to be able to repair mine. Beside the bent motor it's in good condition. ada19851985.proboards.com/thread/7909/1980s-smc-a52I remember that post. Interesting to see that the downrod is so short. That brass SMC, the one with the pull chain is great! The lght kit was a great addition to it as well, it fits perfectly. I sure hope you're going to keep this one...? Thanks Jordan! I decided not to keep it, as I already have an A52. Plus, the ReStore can always use a good quality vintage ceiling fan!
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 1, 2015 13:53:34 GMT -5
Thanks Jordan! I decided not to keep it, as I already have an A52. Plus, the ReStore can always use a good quality vintage ceiling fan! Outrageous! My concern about vintage fans at the restore is the majority of them will likely not end up in good hands... I don't. I also have a SMC A52-C but mine is damaged and almost impossible to fix. I thought the C was for closed mount. Mine has a very short pole with a big canopy. I would love to find a motor only for these to be able to repair mine. Beside the bent motor it's in good condition. ada19851985.proboards.com/thread/7909/1980s-smc-a52Very nice Jean! Too bad the shaft is so bent though...
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Post by Max C. on Feb 2, 2015 16:51:21 GMT -5
Outrageous! My concern about vintage fans at the Restore is the majority of them will likely not end up in good hands... You do have a fair point. However, I do include a printed guide on proper fan care with every ceiling fan sold at the ReStore. If somebody decides not to follow though, it isn't my responsibility.
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 2, 2015 18:11:54 GMT -5
You do have a fair point. However, I do include a printed guide on proper fan care with every ceiling fan sold at the ReStore. If somebody decides not to follow though, it isn't my responsibility. While that's a very good idea, knowing how people are today there's a slim chance they actually read it. Do you also take the blades off the fans before people take them home?
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Post by Farah on Feb 2, 2015 22:31:42 GMT -5
Very cool fans you have there. enjoy them and looking forward to more of your fans.
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Post by Max C. on Feb 2, 2015 23:35:42 GMT -5
While that's a very good idea, knowing how people are today there's a slim chance they actually read it. Do you also take the blades off the fans before people take them home? Thanks. It's not my (nor the ReStores) liability if somebody chooses to disregard the guide though. Therefore, if they screw something up (whether the fan is vintage or not) they only have the person who stares back at them in the mirror to blame. Also, since I am not always present at the ReStore, I generally install fans on display as opposed to remove them for customers. As far as I'm aware, disassembling fans once they are sold is typically standard practice (unless, of course, we're dealing with something small such as a 30" hugger).
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 2, 2015 23:40:48 GMT -5
Thanks. It's not my (nor the ReStores) liability if somebody chooses to disregard the guide though. Therefore, if they screw something up (whether the fan is vintage or not) they only have the person who stares back at them in the mirror to blame. Also, since I am not always present at the ReStore, I generally install fans on display as opposed to remove them for customers. As far as I'm aware, disassembling fans once they are sold is typically standard practice (unless, of course, we're dealing with something small such as a 30" hugger). This is true, but if I worked at a restore, I would keep (providing that was permittable) anything of value in the interest of preserving CF history. Even if it was something I didn't want, I could always trade or give it to another collector.
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Post by Max C. on Feb 2, 2015 23:44:28 GMT -5
This is true, but if I worked at a restore, I would keep (providing that was permittable) anything of value in the interest of preserving CF history. Even if it was something I didn't want, I could always trade or give it to another collector. That's pretty much what I do in a nutshell If (for example) a Hunter Original came in, I would keep it without question. If five came in though, I would put out at least one for sale, just to maintain quality in the overall fan selection. Plus, not every non-fan collector treats ceiling fans like garbage...
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