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Post by Farah on Jul 2, 2006 19:18:37 GMT -5
That is really a cool looking fan.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2006 0:08:35 GMT -5
Thanks. What finish do you suppose that is?
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Post by Farah on Jul 7, 2006 22:32:33 GMT -5
I would say that fan is probably is a Polished Brass and Brown Color.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2006 0:54:32 GMT -5
Brass housing with a brown sideband? Whatever it is, that light/dark combination is unusual.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2006 1:05:08 GMT -5
How'd I do? 1. Motor is brown, most likely made of molded plastic. Nope. Similar shape to, say, a Casablanca Zephyr motor housing from what I remember. Correct. 2. Bell canopy, brown plastic. The one in the lumberyard sure looks like plastic, but it's not. I had to tap it with a metal rod and hear the "ding" to believe it. 3. Four wood blades, the tips of which are unique and hard to describe: best short description I can come up with is that they are rounded but have the corners cut out. I'll simplify: arch end blades. I remembered them a little different, but that's what they are. 4. Variable speed (I dont remember any pullchain) Yes. Big wooden knob? Whoda thought? 5. The switch housing is narrow and tapered, similar to, say, a Hunter Original switch housing. I dont remember if it has the little steps like a Hunter Original How about, it's pretty much the same as any small switch housing (Fasco, Emerson, etc) 6. The switch housing cap is NOT flat but tapered, similar to an SMC spinner switch housing cap, or an old Nutone Veranda More similar to an ornate Fasco switch cap than anything else, but actually pretty unique in shape, especially with the embossed letter 'T' which I SWEAR wasnt there. 7. The sideband is plain, no ribbing or filagree Yes. 8. The sideband, switch housing cap, and variable speed knob are brass. I dont remember if the blade brackets are brass or brown. Brackets are brass, as common sense should have told me (ever seen a brown/brass fan with brown brackets?) Speed knob actually wood, which I never would have believed until I saw it. I swear it was the same color as the sideband and switch cap. Yep, GE motor with those really thick fall-apart flywheels. 10. Motor vents are shaped like the letter U, similar to Nutone Veranda vents (but without the little bar in the middle and more stretched out). I believe they are identical to vents on that big brown Toastmaster Matthew sold (it's in his site gallery) but I could be wrong. Yes and yes, but neither is exactly the same shape. What's EXACTLY the same shape is if you take the GE vents of a Zephyr, and remove the section between the small and large oval.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2006 1:22:24 GMT -5
Lastly, Just remember: smooth brass sideband, brown motor housing. If you see it, pick it up! I dont know why I assumed it only came in brown/brass.
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Post by JW on Jul 8, 2006 12:15:35 GMT -5
Strangely enough Dan, I posted on the brackets about a year before you described the Tara lol... I'll have to go back and see if I can find the post. All I remembered at the time was that the only place I saw those brackets was on fans with arch end blades. That's the funny thing, the only thing you FORGOT about the Tara was the only thing I REMEMBERED!
So putting everything together, the only Taras I have seen in real life were:
*Two white and brass Taras in a gas station on Highway 6 in Waco (long since removed, first replaced with cheapo brass 52" 4-blade fans, then replaced again with two 42" antique brass fans, one of which the motor is assembled wrong (the motor housing faces up and away from the motor itself instead of covering it)
*One brass (or brown and brass) Tara, in a "T T & T" tobacco shop in the Temple Mall, 30 minutes south of Waco. It was in there with a brown Crompton Greaves Encon. Both went bye-bye when the tobacco store was taken out 15 years or so ago.
So any Tara I have seen is long gone. Only remnants have been a crapload of those brackets in the fan shops in Dallas, which means Dallas must have used to be crawling with Taras. I'm constantly on the lookout, but haven't had any luck so far.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2006 14:19:47 GMT -5
Strangely enough Dan, I posted on the brackets about a year before you described the Tara lol... I'll have to go back and see if I can find the post. All I remembered at the time was that the only place I saw those brackets was on fans with arch end blades. That's the funny thing, the only thing you FORGOT about the Tara was the only thing I REMEMBERED! Not surprising you remembered the brackets, as given the vast array of unusual fans in Texas, they're still quite unique, and noticable (as they are larger than most other brackets). What is surprising is that I not only didnt remember them, but never seemed to NOTICE them. I always noticed a few basic details about any fan, even as a child: 1. Vents 2. Sideband 3. Canopy 4. Switch housing 5. Blade brackets 6. Blade tips Unless I only saw it spinning. I saw the lumberyard fan stopped on at least two occasions. The fact that the brackets never even registered still bothers me. As far as your old post(s), I found two on these forums, and I'll re-post them after I'm done replying here. But I opened this "I seek this fan" thread two days after Adam created these boards, so the one you are speaking of must have been on another forums . . . and therefore is probably long gone. So putting everything together, the only Taras I have seen in real life were: *Two white and brass Taras in a gas station on Highway 6 in Waco (long since removed, first replaced with cheapo brass 52" 4-blade fans, then replaced again with two 42" antique brass fans, one of which the motor is assembled wrong (the motor housing faces up and away from the motor itself instead of covering it) *One brass (or brown and brass) Tara, in a "T T & T" tobacco shop in the Temple Mall, 30 minutes south of Waco. It was in there with a brown Crompton Greaves Encon. Both went bye-bye when the tobacco store was taken out 15 years or so ago. I'm not sure if I remember you telling me/posting about either of these. Nothing comes to mind at the moment, MAYBE the brown/brass one is a faint recollection. I can see how brown/brass and AB would be confused, the AB ones I've seen, the sideband is much lighter finished than the motor housing pieces. The brown canopy from the lumberyard could appear to be really dark brass as well. Another interesting point, note the white/brass model recently posted in the gallery. Notice it has a (light) antique brass sideband, a very dark switch cap, and polished brass brackets? All original. I should have pictures coming of another identical model. The only other brand I can think of that mixed AB and polished was Fasco. So any Tara I have seen is long gone. Only remnants have been a crapload of those brackets in the fan shops in Dallas, which means Dallas must have used to be crawling with Taras. I'm constantly on the lookout, but haven't had any luck so far. Their corporate headquarters was in Dallas, and many of the former execs still live there. I have the address, somewhere, of the office building. Maybe some Taras still hanging there? I doubt it. In any case, almost all of the emails (and pictures) I have received from Tara owners have been from Texas, in or not too far from Dallas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2006 14:24:43 GMT -5
. . . and the elusive Diehl repro with the big triangle coming out of the middle point. In fact I remember the fans with Diehl brackets having the "arched-end" tips, but those were the only details I remember... they may not have been Taras for all I know.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2006 22:41:20 GMT -5
I'm reminded of something else. It is part this thread, part it's own topic.
In fifth grade I was a "peer counselor". Near the end of the schoolyear, they took us to this conference with peer mediators from schools all over the state. It took place at some very large church school maybe 45 minutes or so outside of the city.
As should be apparent by now, the first thing I did when I was younger (and still do) when I enter(ed) any new building, was check every room I had access to for fans. The sanctuary did not have any, which was disappointing, at the time almost all churches had fans. The large dining area did not have any, which was also disappointing, it had many 80s style country-looking chandeliers, some plain antique brass fans with lights would have looked very appropriate.
However there were two fans. When our group first arrived, they told us we could pick a classroom to leave our stuff in. I found a classroom with a fan and said "this one!" The fan was a Fasco Parlourfan. It was either chrome or brushed nickel, with white cane blades. I do not remember if it was ornate or not. I do remember I tried to get it to work and I could not. It had an old fashioned wall switch, with a pilot light, as well as the pullchain and variable speed control.
Later that day, the door to the room across the hall from this one was opened. It was a "break room" with a TV kids could watch, and couches. For some reason I never went in the break room but I remembered seeing the fan through the door.
It was chrome with white blades, and always running. It had a very large 3 piece housing, identical in size and shape to a Casablanca Zephyr, and a flywheel. I dont remember very many other details about the fan, in my faint mental image it has a large bell canopy and a switch housing somewhat smaller than normal.
In hindsight I am wishing I had gone in the room, and looked closer at the fan. At the time I was more interested in the Fasco.
Anything it could have been, besides . . . ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2006 3:23:20 GMT -5
Ok, it could have been an American Industries. Any other fans with a full size (cast) three piece housing, besides Casablanca, Taras, and American Industries?
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Post by JW on Jul 24, 2006 8:05:41 GMT -5
Old Jack/American Pride/Tradewinds etc., at least the S vent and vortex vent models... I'll confirm or reject this after I get mine I suppose I assume they were since they also made American Industries.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2006 12:27:56 GMT -5
The Old Jacks have a smaller housing. I think the Classic model by Tradewinds is the same as the American Industries.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2006 0:45:22 GMT -5
Tell you what James, next time I am someplace with a really cool ceiling fan display I'll snap some pictures for you. How's that sound? Both James and Andrew requested it (Menards), I posted it, did you guys see?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2006 16:20:37 GMT -5
A couple of interesting developements on Tara fans:
1. I have, in my possession, two Tara fans with Emerson motors and flywheels. One has the regular square tag which states "General Electric motor and capacitor". The other one has a round tag which does not state anything as to the make of the motor.
2. I have a NIB set of Tara blades. The box says:
The Southern Fan Company, Inc Tara Blades Color: N Model 52" Tyler Rose MFG. in Tyler, Texas
Model 52" implies there was also a smaller model? I've never heard anything about this up until now.
3. The Southern Fan Company letterhead has an engraved logo which includes a very accurately drawn picture of a K63 Casablanca Zephyr. It has the smooth bell canopy also seen on early Key Largos, GE vents, and a large switch housing. However it does have Tara blade brackets, blade tips, and an ornate switch cap.
I know there are a few other fan collectors out there that have Tara fans, although I am sure none of them will admit it to me. Does anyone know anything that might reflect on any of this?
Post your comments!
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