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Post by MattS on May 4, 2017 19:15:27 GMT -5
Here's the Lakewood motor:
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Post by MattS on May 4, 2017 19:18:09 GMT -5
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Post by Jordan U on May 6, 2017 7:52:24 GMT -5
That was the Lakewood motor I figured it would have.. My HV-18 has the same motor,, but I believe it is rated for 0.9 amps.. Interesting this one is more..
Cheese that Robeson setup sure looks cheap,, all the way down to the capacitor and wiring.. I've been thinking about those tuna-can motors,, and it occurred to me that they may not be all that much smaller than what we know as the 'full size' motors.. Since these are a fair bit longer than the full-size ones,, the stator area may actually be comparable.. One of these days I'm going to open one up and take some measurements..
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Post by MattS on May 6, 2017 8:27:22 GMT -5
That was the Lakewood motor I figured it would have.. My HV-18 has the same motor,, but I believe it is rated for 0.9 amps.. Interesting this one is more..
Cheese that Robeson setup sure looks cheap,, all the way down to the capacitor and wiring.. I've been thinking about those tuna-can motors,, and it occurred to me that they may not be all that much smaller than what we know as the 'full size' motors.. Since these are a fair bit longer than the full-size ones,, the stator area may actually be comparable.. One of these days I'm going to open one up and take some measurements.. The Robeson motor is definitely small for a vintage fan, but it moves more air than you'd expect. I bet it's more powerful than the one on my newer Galaxy box fan. The Robeson is definately an oddball, I don't think there's been any other box fans with a plastic cabinet until these mainstays box fans sold today. That being said I still like it. I think my Kool Operator Jr. might have the same "tuna can" motor as well, I'll have to check some time.
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Post by Jordan U on May 6, 2017 8:47:02 GMT -5
The Robeson motor is definitely small for a vintage fan, but it moves more air than you'd expect. I bet it's more powerful than the one on my newer Galaxy box fan. The Robeson is definately an oddball, I don't think there's been any other box fans with a plastic cabinet until these mainstays box fans sold today. That being said I still like it. I think my Kool Operator Jr. might have the same "tuna can" motor as well, I'll have to check some time. I believe it had the same motor as the HV-9..
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Post by Cole D on May 6, 2017 11:55:14 GMT -5
Yeah that's definitely a Samsung on the Robeson, my 1200A has a similar motor but it's gold. They used those on some of the P-223 fans and they were infinitely weaker than the McMillan version.
I wonder who made those Lakewood tuna-can style motors? I never really looked at one up close but it looks bigger than I would expect. I know they seem to be quite powerful, they reach full speed almost immediately, there is no slow startup like the older ones have.
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Post by Jordan U on May 6, 2017 15:34:28 GMT -5
Yeah that's definitely a Samsung on the Robeson, my 1200A has a similar motor but it's gold. They used those on some of the P-223 fans and they were infinitely weaker than the McMillan version. I wonder who made those Lakewood tuna-can style motors? I never really looked at one up close but it looks bigger than I would expect. I know they seem to be quite powerful, they reach full speed almost immediately, there is no slow startup like the older ones have. I'm not sure,, but it can likely be traced with the UL numbers and such.. I would be interested to find out..
This is because those tunacan ones are the PSC type.. They have more torque than the older shaded pole motors.. That coupled with the fact that they're spinning light-weight paper thin blades,, they get right up to speed..
They are reasonably powerful, and reasonably well built motors.. The reason they fail is because they're a bit undersized for the blade,, and to compensate, they're paired with capacitors that are slightly overpowering the motor.. Overtime those factors and the heat do the motor in.. Especially when it gets all blocked up with dust and whatever air could have flowed through the motor is no longer doing so..
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Post by Cole D on May 18, 2017 21:32:53 GMT -5
By any chance was the Holmes oscillator from ebay? I notice you mention it was NIB, I saw there was someone selling them there and they had like 70 of them. I don't know how they had so many.
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Post by MattS on May 19, 2017 8:53:50 GMT -5
Yes, I thought the price was fairly reasonable with shipping, considering it is 1,000x better than new 12 inch oscillators which would cost about the same. Plus I really like 90s Holmes fans.
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Post by Jordan U on May 19, 2017 14:56:23 GMT -5
Is that auction still going? I'd be interested in getting one or two..
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Post by MattS on May 19, 2017 18:06:42 GMT -5
Is that auction still going? I'd be interested in getting one or two.. I believe there are 2 or 3 left, I'd definately recommend getting them. Sadly, I don't really have the room for another one.
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Post by Jordan U on May 19, 2017 20:47:54 GMT -5
I just looked--there's 3 left.. I don't exactly have a lot of extra space available either,, but I'm not one to pass up a great deal.. For $8 a piece I may have to get some..
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Post by Cole D on May 19, 2017 21:51:24 GMT -5
I thought about getting one too, but not sure due to space. I used to like those back in the 90s. I don't know how they had 76 of them. There are a lot of people watching them too.
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Post by MattS on May 20, 2017 7:49:45 GMT -5
To anyone considering one, get them soon.
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Post by MattS on May 20, 2017 7:56:17 GMT -5
Here's some more Craigslist finds Lakewood 1200 Tatung Edison Note the aftermarket handle I know the feet are on backwards, but they're bolted on from the inside and I haven't had the time to fix them.
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