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Post by todthefanman on Nov 12, 2015 17:47:41 GMT -5
I would have to concur that this is a absolutely beautiful Zephyr! Even the price is beautiful! Too bad it has to go through shipping.. That is very concerning..
would you happen to know anyone who has one? They do look quite awesome. I'd love to buy one. Yeah that's the part I'm not sure about. Would you like to have the link I got the pictures from? It's on the SMC website. Only thing is I haven't seen anywhere on the site to buy them. Well it's not that the white one isn't traditional, like I said it's not as traditional mostly because I'd say a brass finish or a white and brass finish would be more traditional than an all white fan. But regardless, I love the look of both of them.
I am familiar with the website the fans are sold on, I was able to find it through the picture, but it appears to be that the fans are only sold through a distributor, which isn't much help considering none of them seem to be situated in America..
The Glendale and Sinclair don't particularly appeal to me.. The Carriage House is decent, but I like the Landmark much better..
As far as those other fans that are on the Home Depot website as online only, those can me found other places, I hardly consider those Home Depot fans..
Yes that is certainly a good looking fan. Those Zephyr's go down as classics in my book. You going to buy it?
Yes indeed it is. A family member of mine has an older Casablanca Panama in white. The control is one I don't know the name of. It has 4 buttons, I believe they say "Fan" "Light" "Reverse" and "Program". Then I believe it has a small toggle switch on the bottom to turn it off as apposed to the newer version with the power button on the bottom. Can you tell me what that website is you found the Carousel II on? |
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 12, 2015 17:56:00 GMT -5
Yes indeed it is. A family member of mine has an older Casablanca Panama in white. The control is one I don't know the name of. It has 4 buttons, I believe they say "Fan" "Light" "Reverse" and "Program". Then I believe it has a small toggle switch on the bottom to turn it off as apposed to the newer version with the power button on the bottom. Can you tell me what that website is you found the Carousel II on?
The Carousel II can be found on the Home Depot website:
Carousel II Ceiling Fan |
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 12, 2015 18:54:51 GMT -5
Yes indeed it is. A family member of mine has an older Casablanca Panama in white. The control is one I don't know the name of. It has 4 buttons, I believe they say "Fan" "Light" "Reverse" and "Program". Then I believe it has a small toggle switch on the bottom to turn it off as apposed to the newer version with the power button on the bottom. Can you tell me what that website is you found the Carousel II on?
The Carousel II can be found on the Home Depot website:
Carousel II Ceiling FanYeah probably. I remember it not working properly. The fan could only go on a medium low speed and shut off after a certain amount of time for no good reason. The only way to get it to even go on was by continuously pressing the program button until it beeped and went on. The other 3 buttons did nothing. Also that is the Carriage House not he Caroursel II. |
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 12, 2015 18:57:07 GMT -5
Yeah probably. I remember it not working properly. The fan could only go on a medium low speed and shut off after a certain amount of time for no good reason. The only way to get it to even go on was by continuously pressing the program button until it beeped and went on. The other 3 buttons did nothing.
Also that is the Carriage House not he Caroursel II.
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Post by Max C. on Nov 12, 2015 19:52:59 GMT -5
I would have to concur that this is a absolutely beautiful Zephyr! Even the price is beautiful! Too bad it has to go through shipping.. That is very concerning.. Are you concerned that they will not package it correctly? That doesn't surprise me, Intellitouch is prone to failure after a while.. Why do people always discredit Inteli-Touch's reliability  In all seriousness, it depends who is using the control. If some kid is constantly pressing buttons, of course it is going to fail. |
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 12, 2015 19:58:57 GMT -5
I would have to concur that this is a absolutely beautiful Zephyr! Even the price is beautiful! Too bad it has to go through shipping.. That is very concerning.. Are you concerned that they will not package it correctly? That doesn't surprise me, Intellitouch is prone to failure after a while.. Why do people always discredit Inteli-Touch's reliability In all seriousness, it depends who is using the control. If some kid is constantly pressing buttons, of course it is going to fail. I think it was something the painter did. See the fans inteli-touch worked perfectly fine until they had someone paint the whole room. Then it started screwing up. Not to mention I took the switch plate off and... there was paint on the wires..... |
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Post by Max C. on Nov 12, 2015 23:14:17 GMT -5
I think it was something the painter did. See the fans inteli-touch worked perfectly fine until they had someone paint the whole room. Then it started screwing up. Not to mention I took the switch plate off and... there was paint on the wires..... Aspiring electrician here What likely happened is that the painter did not know to operate the control. In their attempt to turn the fan on or off, they "fouled things up." Paint on the wires is certainly not a contributing factor (believe it or not, this is amazingly common actually). Unless, of course, the paint is inside the wire connectors. Out of curiosity, would you mind posting a picture of the fan and control for us to see? |
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 13, 2015 9:19:54 GMT -5
I think it was something the painter did. See the fans inteli-touch worked perfectly fine until they had someone paint the whole room. Then it started screwing up. Not to mention I took the switch plate off and... there was paint on the wires..... Aspiring electrician here What likely happened is that the painter did not know to operate the control. In their attempt to turn the fan on or off, they "fouled things up." Paint on the wires is certainly not a contributing factor (believe it or not, this is amazingly common actually). Unless, of course, the paint is inside the wire connectors. Out of curiosity, would you mind posting a picture of the fan and control for us to see? Yeah I just thought maybe the paint brush going in there could've obstructed it in a way. Anyways if I ever return to their house I'll take a picture for you. I haven't been there in a few years. And if I do go back it will most likely be over the summer. So it would be a little while from now. |
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 13, 2015 17:56:35 GMT -5
Why do people always discredit Inteli-Touch's reliability In all seriousness, it depends who is using the control. If some kid is constantly pressing buttons, of course it is going to fail.
Are you concerned that they will not package it correctly
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Post by Max C. on Nov 13, 2015 19:20:39 GMT -5
Anyways if I ever return to their house I'll take a picture for you. I haven't been there in a few years. And if I do go back it will most likely be over the summer. So it would be a little while from now. That would be much appreciated. Its not Inteli-Touch specifically, its electronic controls in general Honestly, I do not believe it is merely this simplistic. There are numerous factors that can influence the operation of an electronic control. Environment, user-interaction, frequency of usage, quality of installation and quality of the control itself just to name a few. Even standard pull chain ceiling fans are prone to these factors. If you take an excellent quality fan (for example an Emerson Premium), however it is installed extremely poorly and misused, it will not last any considerable length of time. However, a Wal-Mart fan installed correctly and not often used can last far longer. That is not to say, however, that the Wal-Mart fan is better quality... |
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 14, 2015 0:09:16 GMT -5
Honestly, I do not believe it is merely this simplistic. There are numerous factors that can influence the operation of an electronic control. Environment, user-interaction, frequency of usage, quality of installation and quality of the control itself just to name a few. Even standard pull chain ceiling fans are prone to these factors. If you take an excellent quality fan (for example an Emerson Premium), however it is installed extremely poorly and misused, it will not last any considerable length of time. However, a Wal-Mart fan installed correctly and not often used can last far longer. That is not to say, however, that the Wal-Mart fan is better quality...
Its also worth underscoring that an electronic control will fail over time, even with no use.. It constantly has power flowing through it, and some of its components normally fail after so many years.. There's not much to go wrong with a pull chain switch just existing.. unless maybe it was installed near the ocean and the metal rusted out or some other extenuating case..
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Post by Jonathan A. on Nov 14, 2015 0:55:58 GMT -5
I notice broken pull chains much more often than I notice malfunctioning electronics, probably because broken pull chain can be easily noticeable while malfunctioning electronics can only be noticed when touched, and we see pull chain fans more often then we see fans with electronics. Even then, broken chains can be fixed by having it opened up (I've opened Zing Ear pull chain switch before), but even if it's not repairable, pull chain replacement is cheaper than electronic replacement.
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Post by Max C. on Nov 14, 2015 13:45:03 GMT -5
I was considering a situation where two fans were used the same way, one with electronic controls, and one with a mechanical control.. Either way, it sure seems that we see way more Casablanca InteliTouch fans failing than Casablanca pullchain based fans..
Its also worth underscoring that an electronic control will fail over time, even with no use.. It constantly has power flowing through it, and some of its components normally fail after so many years.. There's not much to go wrong with a pull chain switch just existing.. unless maybe it was installed near the ocean and the metal rusted out or some other extenuating case..
Although I do not entirely disagree, you must remember that Inteli-Touch controls have a proper on/off switch with literally disconnects all power from the the fan. What I often observe failing are low-end remote control receivers. I have worked with Hampton Bay fans that have been used for what appears to be approximately a week (possibly less) and yet the receiver is noticeably melted. |
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 14, 2015 14:25:33 GMT -5
<abbr></abbr>Although I do not entirely disagree, you must remember that Inteli-Touch controls have a proper on/off switch with literally disconnects all power from the the fan. What I often observe failing are low-end remote control receivers. I have worked with Hampton Bay fans that have been used for what appears to be approximately a week (possibly less) and yet the receiver is noticeably melted.
If something fails in a week, then it was either defective and/or not built properly..
Its also worth underscoring that controls like the Hampton Bay receivers (or really any for that matter) would ideally be operating after a surge protector, of which I don't think anyone installs on ceiling fans..
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Post by todthefanman on Nov 14, 2015 14:34:00 GMT -5
I was considering a situation where two fans were used the same way, one with electronic controls, and one with a mechanical control.. Either way, it sure seems that we see way more Casablanca InteliTouch fans failing than Casablanca pullchain based fans..
Its also worth underscoring that an electronic control will fail over time, even with no use.. It constantly has power flowing through it, and some of its components normally fail after so many years.. There's not much to go wrong with a pull chain switch just existing.. unless maybe it was installed near the ocean and the metal rusted out or some other extenuating case..
Although I do not entirely disagree, you must remember that Inteli-Touch controls have a proper on/off switch with literally disconnects all power from the the fan. What I often observe failing are low-end remote control receivers. I have worked with Hampton Bay fans that have been used for what appears to be approximately a week (possibly less) and yet the receiver is noticeably melted. Are you saying that if the Inteli-Touch wasn't shut off and left for a certain amount of time it could cause it to fail? Because this fan I'm talking about is in their summer house. No one is ever there all year accept for the summer. Even then they hardly use the fan because I was the only one who could figure out how to get it running. |
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In all seriousness, it depends who is using the control. If some kid is constantly pressing buttons, of course it is going to fail.