Sam S
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Post by Sam S on Aug 13, 2015 21:50:41 GMT -5
Just watched the video. Of course, the 19th century was awesome but wow, demo mode is horrible on IT3. Since it just goes directly to your selected speed (versus the original pulse system which would quickly go to high first no matter what, then your selected speed), it takes much longer to get up to speed than the old system. But, it looks like they didn't change the timing of the demo program at all to account for this, so you don't get to see the individual speeds, and then when it gets to speed 6 it reverses before it's even close to reaching maximum speed.
If they were only going to use this control system for 3 years, I don't understand why they even bothered creating it. They couldn't have squeaked by just a little while longer with the W-32s?
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 15, 2015 17:41:06 GMT -5
I don't like the fact that the speed bump (the quick high speed, then your selected speed) is essentially nonexistent on IT3. The relays clack like that's what it's supposed to be doing, but the fan doesn't really do it. It seems to me like the Demo mode speed cycle is even faster than on the pulse system. It's link beep beep speed 3 beep beep speed 6 reverse reverse off faster than you can blink. Given, I don't know that a 19th Century is really the best first impression, given that these fans perform rather differently than your basic Panama, but pulse is always going to be the best system in my book. The only thing I DO like about IT3 is that you can use the IT wall control and/or the AdvanTouch style remote with it, that is the only advantage it has going for it.
I'm thinking for the past five or so years, nobody at Hunter/Casablanca has had any idea where things were going, it's just been a complete spiral out of control. In 2010 things were looking pretty good at Casa, but not long after it's like someone turned a switch and everything that had just been done started getting reversed. While the products have taken a hit, I have to say it seems like they're evening out again now, which I guess is a good thing instead of continually getting worse.
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 17, 2015 19:37:42 GMT -5
My boss brought this Hunter back to the shop for me on Friday, after swapping it with a new Quiet Breeze on a service call for someone. This is in fact a Southern Breeze, correct? I can't find any evidence of them being made in new bronze, I swear Menards had them, but this thing doesn't even have a visible model number on it for me to look up... It was replaced because the light kit pullchain was reportedly not working. As I assumed, the chain was fine, but the stupid wattage limiter was blown, and I of course took that crap out and smashed it. It's a low-end fan for sure, but I have to take a minute here and give it just a little credit. High speed is actually a good high speed, it moves sufficient air for your basic 42" fan, and it's quiet (other than a little bearing whirr). It seems like Hunter does better when they stick to the basics. This thing is essentially built to be a piece of junk, yet I feel it automatically beats out anything with grossly oversized blades, considering it has a real high speed. The motor is small, but at least it's built to handle this blade load.
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 17, 2015 23:14:07 GMT -5
Looks nice! Free is nice!
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Post by Noah C on Aug 17, 2015 23:51:56 GMT -5
Looks nice! Free is nice! Definitely!
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 20, 2015 14:49:22 GMT -5
That's actually a pretty nice looking fan for something that's supposed to be low end..
How exactly do those dopey wattage limiter things work?
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Post by Max C. on Aug 20, 2015 17:53:46 GMT -5
How exactly do those dopey wattage limiter things work?
Their purpose is to regulate the total wattage wattage of the fan's light kit. If somebody installs a combination of light bulbs that exceeds this wattage, the limiter will either dim the lights of shut the light kit off entirely (depending on the model used in the fan).
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 20, 2015 19:23:42 GMT -5
Their purpose is to regulate the total wattage wattage of the fan's light kit. If somebody installs a combination of light bulbs that exceeds this wattage, the limiter will either dim the lights of shut the light kit off entirely (depending on the model used in the fan). I know what their function is, I was curious more to what kind of electronics are in there.. How does it do that.. But either way the concept is unbelievably stupid..
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Post by Max C. on Aug 20, 2015 23:52:21 GMT -5
I know what their function is, I was curious more to what kind of electronics are in there.. How does it do that.. But either way the concept is unbelievably stupid.. From what I've observed, most basic models of wattage limiters are merely current monitoring devices. There is usually a variable resistor that adjusts the attack range/time (what amount of current draw causes the device to disconnect power to the light kit and how long it takes for this to occur). The more sophisticated models also monitor current draw, however they have an added dimming circuit instead of a simple relay. There is also a third type which is literally just a fuse. These are reserved for the cheapest fans and aren't particularly common. I can provide pictures of the internals for the two main types if you're interested.
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 21, 2015 9:23:41 GMT -5
From what I've observed, most basic models of wattage limiters are merely current monitoring devices. There is usually a variable resistor that adjusts the attack range/time (what amount of current draw causes the device to disconnect power to the light kit and how long it takes for this to occur). The more sophisticated models also monitor current draw, however they have an added dimming circuit instead of a simple relay. There is also a third type which is literally just a fuse. These are reserved for the cheapest fans and aren't particularly common. I can provide pictures of the internals for the two main types if you're interested. If its not much of a hassle, pictures would be interesting..
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 25, 2015 21:37:33 GMT -5
Here's my recent impulse purchase, an Emerson Carrera Grande in antique pewter with dark cherry blades. I chose the 22" blades for a 54" span, while it's a "Grande" fan, I wanted real performance instead of a 72" blade span, and the 22" were cheapest lol. It's controlled by the included 4 speed wall control. I never paid this model very much attention, I knew there were a bunch of Carrera variations and knew the general idea of what they looked like, but didn't start looking closely at them until I saw this one come up at a great price. Must admit, I've taken quite a liking to the series now, I think it's a beautiful transitional design and was blown away by the performance and build. The motor is seriously massive (see pictures), 212mm x 25mm, and the entire motor assembly weighs more than most stack motor fans. I had a little trouble getting it out of the styrofoam in the box because of the weight, I actually had to laugh there, because usually that's not something you encounter with new fans other than maybe Originals. The switch housing is still cast, despite it being detachable, which I never would've guessed. This Carrera series is damp rated, but the antique pewter and brushed steel finishes aren't recommended for outdoor use which makes no sense, so I kind of understand why the line has been revamped. Air movement is amazing, this fan is definitely a new favorite in the Emerson line for me, I'm so very impressed with this fan. This is real quality, with a real spinner motor to back it up. I'll be the first to say that I don't really like all the new blade shapes on the market these days, and I honestly hate the blades shown here on Premium/Crown Selects, but I have to say that they look pretty fantastic on this fan. I don't think I'd like even classic soft pointed tip blades as much as I like these on this fan. While the blade revamp has been rather disastrous for the existing models (Premium, Crown), I think they made the right choices for the newer models. Pictures don't do this monster justice, I opened that housing and I mean I knew with specs like that it was gonna be large, but this was more than I expected. Here's a not very good comparison with ye old standard Hunter Whisperwind (a good one from the 90s).
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 25, 2015 23:51:09 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 26, 2015 21:02:51 GMT -5
Never fails to amaze that there is scratches on a motor inside a housing.. Says something about the assembly process.. Surprised to see the MM rating in the description, I know you're not fond of specs like I am LOL
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 26, 2015 22:36:26 GMT -5
When specs are worth mentioning, I'll include them lol. I get pretty excited when I see 212mm these days, usually I'm just hoping for a 188mm. Scratches inside the housing have never bothered me any, since it's not like you'll ever see them. It's not exactly what I want to see, but as long as what you can see on the outside is flawless and it functions perfectly (as this fan does), it's not a big deal.
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