|
Post by Jordan U on Jul 1, 2015 20:00:55 GMT -5
Your last few acquisitions weren't really my style, but this Supreme, this thing is fantastic! I want it! Have you a video of it yet?It's very cute and the tone of the brown is beautiful but I don't like how the blades are so disproportionate compared to the motor. The blades are very skinny and they should really have put a gold line around the motor on those fans. I don't think it looks bad how it is.. but I would have liked to see the blades a little wider also..
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Jul 5, 2015 0:19:14 GMT -5
The video is up, maybe you already saw: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gguIq08NUNwI don't like the picture I took, looking back at it the proportions do look wacky. I don't think the theylook particularly bad in person, nor did I even consider wider blades making it look any better.
|
|
|
Post by JW on Jul 5, 2015 1:51:33 GMT -5
I've mentioned elsewhere (apparently not here) that our two bowling alleys here in Waco had a ton of these little brown Supremes. What's weird is the way the bowling alleys had them configured. In one of them (Westview Lanes) they are controlled behind the front desk, except for one they used to have right inside the entrance with the wall control next to it in the ceiling (it was never turned on). For years the other one (Lake Air Lanes, which has been shuttered and is being turned into a church) had a pull chain coming out of the ceiling next to each fan until they removed all the pull chains and rewired them to switches behind the desk. The unusual thing was, every single one of them ran at about half the speed yours does (around 220-240 RPM or so) - even the ones connected to an external pull chain. Makes me wonder how they were wired... I would assume that they were all set to factory low? The pull chains were wired in line with the actual controls which were out of view somewhere? Here's a pic of the now closed Lake Air Lanes... by this point the fans were no longer pull chain operated:
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Jul 5, 2015 13:49:39 GMT -5
When you say it I do remember you talking about these bowling alley fans a few times, particularly the peculiar control situations. They must have been in with some sort of other control to all be running at that speed, I guess it wouldn't be too surprising given the strangeness of the system as a whole.
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Jul 5, 2015 14:21:07 GMT -5
This thing takes a little explaining. First off, I will say I went to excessive lengths to fix a common brass Panama 5 when I could've just parted it out, but it was kind of a trial run to see how far I could go to make what I have on hand work so that I might know for future reference. A lot of you probably remember awhile back there was an IT Panama 5 on eBay with the ever-elusive F. Fabbian Corinzia 5 light kit. I won it, but of course tragedy took place during shipping. One globe is in two pieces and another has a crack, which I'm working on with Matt Ray to get those replaced, and I'll display it on something when/if it's complete again. Unfortunately the fan rode on the switch housing the whole way, bending it askew to a point where I couldn't get it to move in the direction I needed it to, and to where it'd probably at least partially break anyways if it did move. When I found that the IT looked fried as well (have not tested it yet), I figured I was pretty much at ground zero and wasn't going to keep the light kit paired with this fan anyways, so I set about going to three speed. I tapped the shaft out of the switch housing, and tried to thread the end. There wasn't really enough material there so we ended up cutting the end off and welding on a coupler. I had the threaded brass switch housing on hand from eBay awhile back, screwed it onto the modified shaft and locked it with a nut inside. Implanted a genuine three speed Casablanca board from eBay, got a new brass switch cap from the Casablanca website, and that was it. Now I've got another fully functional three speed Panama. Blades are a little warped causing some wobble, but otherwise it looks and works great! Video here later: youtu.be/TL4FTEXF_vwFinally remembered to take a 4 blade picture lol, I've been forgetting to take those on 4/5 blade fans lately.
|
|
|
Post by JW on Jul 5, 2015 23:05:46 GMT -5
When you say it I do remember you talking about these bowling alley fans a few times, particularly the peculiar control situations. They must have been in with some sort of other control to all be running at that speed, I guess it wouldn't be too surprising given the strangeness of the system as a whole. The more I think about them, they may be (have been) 42". The blades on yours look smaller. If the bowling alley fans are 42", they might use a larger motor with more poles and thus much fewer RPM's, and they may indeed be operating on high.
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Jul 6, 2015 12:54:40 GMT -5
That was the other thing I was thinking about, which would make just as much sense. I can't really tell from that picture, but comparing the scale to some of the other objects, they do perhaps look bigger.
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Aug 10, 2015 20:07:29 GMT -5
You may or may not be aware, but Casablanca was clearing out 19th Centuries online for $299. I found them a couple weeks ago and was lying in wait to see if the price would drop more (they seem to fluctuate sometimes), but when they finally appeared in the Facebook group last week, I absolutely had to take the opportunity to get a brass one at a price like that. Lucky I did because they were evidently gone shortly after. I don't see high chances that we'll be seeing prices like that on them anywhere else any time soon. Unfortunately I couldn't get a light kit right now, they didn't have them discounted on the Casablanca site and they're still practically the price I paid for the entire fan everywhere else, so hopefully someone will clear them out too eventually. It's a lovely fan, they didn't start skimping on this model like they did even on the most recent generation of other XLP motor fans like the last "true" Panamas. It's my first IT3 fan, it's better than no IT and it works good, but I will always prefer the pulse system over radio frequency. This system makes so much clicking and clacking noise, a minor detail really, but I find it annoying. Overall I'm quite satisfied though, easily worth the investment. Video here: youtu.be/OCvugb_FYsoI can never get really nice pictures of brass fans, my lighting just doesn't suit them, so I tried a couple here in attempt to get something presentable.
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Aug 10, 2015 20:07:50 GMT -5
Ugh double post. Sorry.
|
|
|
Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 10, 2015 22:20:13 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see how you are saving the last true genuine Casablancas. Hansen Wholesale still many matte black Panama 4-speed pull chain for a very low price including the blades.
The trick for the pictures it's no flash but open your picture in a simple photo editing program, it really doesn't need to be photoshop, and reduce the reflets, raise the contrast and adjust the shadows in case the surplus of contrast darken the fan too much.
|
|
|
Post by Jordan U on Aug 10, 2015 22:53:59 GMT -5
Very nice.. I like it.. I'd have to agree about the clicking sounds and IT.. It does annoy me also.. My Panama is like that.. It sounds like its going to break lolI've found that if you leave just a few characters in a post, it will allow you to delete it for some strange reason..
|
|
|
Post by fancollector12 on Aug 10, 2015 23:23:32 GMT -5
I like the 19th Century!
|
|
Sam S
New Member
Posts: 45
|
Post by Sam S on Aug 11, 2015 14:37:34 GMT -5
Very nice. I've been looking at the closeouts myself - in particular, I'm interested in an antique pewter Holliston, but right now it's still priced too high for my taste. Hopefully the price comes down before it disappears - for a while I've wanted to own one of the last Casablanca stack motor designs.
Just curious though, in what way do you think they skimped on the last true Panamas? I don't own any but they've always seemed like excellent quality fans to me.
|
|
|
Post by Cole S. on Aug 11, 2015 21:29:08 GMT -5
I'm very happy to see how you are saving the last true genuine Casablancas. Hansen Wholesale still many matte black Panama 4-speed pull chain for a very low price including the blades. The trick for the pictures it's no flash but open your picture in a simple photo editing program, it really doesn't need to be photoshop, and reduce the reflets, raise the contrast and adjust the shadows in case the surplus of contrast darken the fan too much. I feel like I'm trying to save some history, but before it's actually history. Hopefully it'll be of some importance someday, for now I'm enjoying them all very much. Well there's my problem then, lol, I typically don't take the time to edit anything on my photos. Very nice. I've been looking at the closeouts myself - in particular, I'm interested in an antique pewter Holliston, but right now it's still priced too high for my taste. Hopefully the price comes down before it disappears - for a while I've wanted to own one of the last Casablanca stack motor designs. Just curious though, in what way do you think they skimped on the last true Panamas? I don't own any but they've always seemed like excellent quality fans to me. I want a Holliston as well, been watching those for months but they don't seem to budge on that price. Meanwhile, Waileas keep going down. Now let me just clarify, those Panamas were still fantastic fans, still some of the best fans on the market at the time and all that. But Hicks recently got a newer Avalon Panama, and he echoed some of my thoughts about my recent weathered copper Panama. Again, I will say I LOVE that fan, it's good and I still love that finish to pieces. There's something about it though that just feels chintzy compared to something a few years older. I can't even pinpoint what it is exactly, other than positively the almost nonexistent vent screens (they're like window screen), and just the feel of the parts. It's like the quality control isn't quite there, or something. I'm realizing it's not really something explainable, you have to see it and feel it in your hands to experience it. I never mentioned it before because I couldn't explain it, and I still can't, but I mention it now since someone else shared literally my exact feelings.
|
|
|
Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 12, 2015 1:13:41 GMT -5
It really doesn't need to be photoshop, just an ordinary photo program that comes with most of computers now. It's very simple and fast to use and many pictures can be adjusted in a short amount of time. I've been doing this to my photos since 2012 and now I don't allow myself to post any pictures that have not been opened in this program. It's particularly wonderful for sightings pictures that are often taken in bad situations where it's too dark, or too bright with fluorescent lights behind the fan that erases the fan into the light or it's through a window with reflects. It have made presentable so many sightings pictures of mine by using this.
|
|