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Post by fan20at25 on Jan 19, 2013 17:40:30 GMT -5
Hi everyone, I know that most ceiling fans generally have the usual high med and low speeds. The average human who has a ceiling fan and they switch it on low they generally want a low smooth barely moving circulating speed.
However I'm not the average human. I tend to like the wind a lot, meaning if I'm using the low speed on the fan, I would at least want it to turn faster and move just a little more air.
I found that desire fulfilled in my grandfather's Loyal ceiling fan. On low speed it turns over 80 RPMS. It's almost the speed as the average med speed on modern fans. On med and high speeds it flies.
But anyway my questions to the community is:
What models and brands have fast low speeds and how many RPMs do they go?
What is the average RPMs for a low speed on common ceiling fans both old and new?
Is there a way to adjust or wire a fan motor to speed up the low speed?
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Post by Jonathan A. on Jan 19, 2013 21:45:02 GMT -5
You would need to replace the capacitor. It would be easier to just get a wall control. The fan spins fast on low with a Hunter 22691 wall control. Here are my YouTube videos of ceiling fans on Hunter 22691 wall control. All 3 fans spin fast on low. Just in case you're wondering why I did not turn the other one on, it doesn't work. I tried pulling the chain and pushing the reverse switch, doesn't work. I'm surprised it doesn't work considering it's a Hunter.
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Post by JW on Jan 20, 2013 20:42:31 GMT -5
Your questions as posed would take a very, very long time to answer, as there are hundreds of brands and tens of thousands of models of ceiling fans, and it would be impossible to determine an average.
To be honest, with 3-speed fans it is really a crapshoot because some of the fans with decent RPM on low are not the best quality and may have little blade pitch or some other factors that result in little air movement. Your higher-end fans usually have a slow-RPM low speed. Some fans have a slow low speed and a BIG difference between low and medium - 3-speed Old Jacksonvilles, certain Emerson Casablanca Classics, and 90's Hunter Originals are some of the most egregious examples. Of the three, only the Emersons have a capacitor you can replace to change only the low speed (Old Jacks have transformers, and Originals have the third speed wired into the motor), and it takes some jury-rigging or alteration of the fan's original wire endings if you don't have the right kind. Some 3-speed Casablancas may qualify as well, and could perhaps have capacitors that could be swapped out, but the speeds are more evenly spaced out.
Your best bet would probably be to find a 4-speed Emerson 1895 or Turn of the Century. You have the "aesthetic low" but you also have a medium-low speed at around 75 RPM or so that is more along the lines of what you are looking for.
Hope this helps.
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Post by fan20at25 on Jan 22, 2013 22:49:22 GMT -5
Actually this does helps. You see I don't mind somewhat starting up a collection but my certain kind of collection would be fans with faster low speeds. It's more of a novelty of a novelty. Interestingly enough I saw a Loyal on youtube that spun really slow and I believe it had the pull-chain and not the speed knob. Yet the Loyals my grandfather have turn pretty quick for a low speed. (the one in his bedroom that I was trying to fix with another pull chain switch turns a little bit faster on low than the one in his dining room "Aggrivating Ceiling Fan Stays ON all the time" thread ) Hmmmm. To give you an idea on the speed I'm talking about, the Loyals on low speed turn almost about as fast as Casablanca Delta I on medium. However on the Loyal fans the pitch of the blades aren't quite as high as the Casablancas. So I can't speak on the amount of air movement. BTW the Loyal fans have 50 inch blades so they're shorter than the standard 52 inch fan blades and lightweight. So I don't know if that could also somewhat determine a difference. Another reason why I want a fan with a fast low speed is because of the atmosphere look too. The blades are turning fast enough and moving just enough air without being too windy in a cool but stuffy room. Plus watching blades swirling in a circle with the light fixtures shining on the brackets and motor housing is a nice view. I used to also own a Hampton Bayfan Emperor knockoff with polished brass and cane oak blades. It had a good low speed but the blades were much narrower so it looked like it turned an average low speed. The Casablanca's have a gentle air flow on low speed and they don't have to turn as fast, though I really wish they did. I don't know about all makes and brands but I was hoping if the community would give some comments on fans with faster or slower low speeds. I do agree that the average wouldn't be easy to obtain, but all ceiling fans I've encountered in my life had some slow low speeds. The Loyals I've gotten interested in several years ago, were the first ceiling fans I've noticed that have a quicker low speed than the other fans I've came across in my life. Thanks for the replies.
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Post by JW on Jan 22, 2013 23:30:55 GMT -5
If blade pitch does not matter, here are some suggestions (for the 48" or bigger range; most smaller fans will be moderately fast on low)
Christina (which I'm thinking more and more was manufactured by Firebird - what about the Firebird-manufactured Hampton Bays?)
Berni
Some 3-speed Tyebs (early-to-mid 80's Hong Kong builderfans, apparently I'm the only one that ever comes across them)
Some 3-speed Supremes
Some if not most CEC/Toastmaster spinners; occasionally these will purposely spin slow on all three speeds in reverse
Most if not all industrial/residential "hybrids" (Encon/Crompton Greaves, Evergo, Golden Fan Electric etc.) presuming they have the original multi-speed "choke" wall controller or a pull chain
Pre-90's NuTone Slimlines, before they went to a generic CEC-type spinner (although generally their medium and high speeds suck)
Emerson 2148's
Craftmades from the mid-90's on (except for their current entry-level builderfan)
Wood blade Royalaire-type KDK's (although they have virtually no blade pitch)
Japanese Laskos (similar to above, not sure about blade pitch)
3-speed Anticas
Some 3-speed Codeps
Hall Marks (these also go by other names, basically an 80's NuTone Decorator with a GE vent or Calcutta vent faceplate and super wide blades)
In addition, medium-low on most 4-speed fans will give you around the RPM's you are looking for.
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Post by Tais on Jan 23, 2013 1:42:42 GMT -5
60s orient fans and prier are so fast at low speeds
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Post by JW on Jan 23, 2013 20:17:45 GMT -5
Also imported Originals (2003-present), including Archives.
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