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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2011 13:48:32 GMT -5
Do you have an amp meter, or a multimeter that can test AC amps? If so, you can check to see if the capacitor is correct.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 12, 2011 22:22:06 GMT -5
Do you have an amp meter, or a multimeter that can test AC amps? If so, you can check to see if the capacitor is correct. We have one but I currently cannot find it. My father always loses his things. The capacitor reads: MP Capacitor CAP 4 MFD W.V. 250V.AC SEIKA Electrical Co.LtdIt uses two red wires.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 0:07:36 GMT -5
4 is pretty low. I'd be surprised if it was lower.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 13, 2011 1:50:34 GMT -5
4 is pretty low. I'd be surprised if it was lower. I don't know much how capacitors works but I thought if the number was too high for the blade span, it's how the fan would spin faster on the lowest speed. I just checked the white 52'' model I have and the capacitor number is 5 MFD. I'm not familiar with MFD, I thought the number of a capacitor works with a UF. What is the difference between UF and MFD and how does it work to have a fan going slower or faster on the lowest setting? The problem with this one is that is goes too fast on the lowest setting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2011 16:08:52 GMT -5
MFD = UF. Two different abbreviations for the same thing.
The value of the capacitor dictates the balance between the start winding and the run winding. The higher the number, the more current goes to the start winding, and the faster the motor will go.
If the value is too high, the start winding will burn up.
If the value is too low, the fan will go slower, and perhaps not start.
4uf is pretty low. I'd be surprised if it were lower than that.
Find your amp meter and we can find out for sure.
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Post by Cole S. on Dec 13, 2011 18:42:05 GMT -5
Oh, the mounting your describing sounds exactly like what I have. It has a round (eye) hook which is a lot smaller than a J-hook and that hook it screwed to two square metal plates with bolts and it's supposed to be bolted to the little steel cross bar. To attach the eye hook it's exactly like you described. A pin covered with a little piece of rubber is passed in the hole of the eye hook and locked in place the same way a pin for double claw or J-hook mount is locked. So the mountings for your DEMC's can only be mounted to an electrical box and not directly to a wood beam like we can do with double claw or ball & socket? Yup, that's it for sure. Since the DEMCs were NIB, I got two mounting options. One similar to what you describe, where you can attach the eye hook to a bracket and box, and another is a separate eye hook that will screw directly into wood. Really interesting, and, quite frankly, stupid mounting method IMO.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 14, 2011 20:41:38 GMT -5
MFD = UF. Two different abbreviations for the same thing. The value of the capacitor dictates the balance between the start winding and the run winding. The higher the number, the more current goes to the start winding, and the faster the motor will go. If the value is too high, the start winding will burn up. If the value is too low, the fan will go slower, and perhaps not start. 4uf is pretty low. I'd be surprised if it were lower than that. Find your amp meter and we can find out for sure. Thanks for all the infos. Well even if 4 is pretty low, this fan starts pretty fast on the slowest setting and does 120RPM at the slowest. I found the amp meter but it's actually a volt meter but my father told me it can also measure amps if the knob is placed at a different position.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 14, 2011 21:07:14 GMT -5
Oh, the mounting your describing sounds exactly like what I have. It has a round (eye) hook which is a lot smaller than a J-hook and that hook it screwed to two square metal plates with bolts and it's supposed to be bolted to the little steel cross bar. To attach the eye hook it's exactly like you described. A pin covered with a little piece of rubber is passed in the hole of the eye hook and locked in place the same way a pin for double claw or J-hook mount is locked. So the mountings for your DEMC's can only be mounted to an electrical box and not directly to a wood beam like we can do with double claw or ball & socket? Yup, that's it for sure. Since the DEMCs were NIB, I got two mounting options. One similar to what you describe, where you can attach the eye hook to a bracket and box, and another is a separate eye hook that will screw directly into wood. Really interesting, and, quite frankly, stupid mounting method IMO. Yes I can see exactly what your talking about. Adam also have a fan NIB exactly like you got and we can see all the parts with two types of mountings with small round hooks in that plastic bag on the right. www.vintageceilingfans.com/gulfcoastfansseabreeze48industrialceilingfan.htmlI recognize the type of downrods too. This metal bladed model came with the mid length downrod. It's made exactly like it with the big U shaped opening at the top. My two wood bladed models came with the shortest length downrd. Same parts indeed. 4 Seasons even had that same model with the three-straight blades. It may sound weird but it's seems the three bladed version are more uncommon than the four blades versions here. The only one like it I saw was brown 36''. It looked exactly like this but in brown: www.vintageceilingfans.com/gulfcoastfansseabreeze36industrialceilingfan.htmlI already posted in my sightings theses brown four bladed models 48'' that a bank near me used to have: www.vintageceilingfans.com/membergalleries/gallery/showimage.php?i=875&c=34For the mountings it would have been easier if they came with a regular double claw mounting like the 1982-1984 4 Seasons came with.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 2:40:20 GMT -5
Well even if 4 is pretty low, this fan starts pretty fast on the slowest setting and does 120RPM at the slowest. I found the amp meter but it's actually a volt meter but my father told me it can also measure amps if the knob is placed at a different position. AC or DC amps? Up to what maximum?
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 15, 2011 13:08:42 GMT -5
Well even if 4 is pretty low, this fan starts pretty fast on the slowest setting and does 120RPM at the slowest. I found the amp meter but it's actually a volt meter but my father told me it can also measure amps if the knob is placed at a different position. AC or DC amps? Up to what maximum? The knob has many positions. It can be in AC or DC up to 500V. It also has a position called ''OHM'', a position for batteries and a position in DCA with three position: 500u, 10m, and 250m. My father told me to measure amps we need to use one of theses positions but it has to be measured in parallèle.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2011 15:34:41 GMT -5
You cant measure AC amps.
See if you can borrow something that will measure AC amps at least up to 5 amps.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 18, 2011 3:51:34 GMT -5
You cant measure AC amps. See if you can borrow something that will measure AC amps at least up to 5 amps. Well I think I will end up leaving it as it is. Anyway I have the admit that I never saw a 36'' model spinning really slowly. Always that mediumish speed. You think that there is still the possibility that the capacitor could be too high for it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2011 23:59:57 GMT -5
Very slim.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Dec 30, 2011 23:52:03 GMT -5
The video for this 4 Seasons is up on You Tube. Comment and rate please.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jan 4, 2012 0:10:31 GMT -5
Anyone check this and the Evergo? I remember some of you said you wanted a video of them.
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