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Post by fancollector12 on Jul 20, 2017 1:56:27 GMT -5
Sweet finds! Love the antiques!
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Post by Andrew G. on Jul 20, 2017 8:50:16 GMT -5
Very odd how neat things constantly show up in your area now while South FL has been dry for over a year.. Those golden fan versions are a hell alot better than the typical 48' version of those slow New Fans.. That box proves that those old metal bladed fans aren't industrial ceiling fans, meaning they were intended for home use.. I think the reason most New Fan industrials are slow is because the blades are heavy steel; but even then, they're not that slow. Manufacturers marketing industrials for residential use is sort of like how the 'road beer' used to be an acceptable thing; of course, now drinking and driving is a giant no-no, but it used to be okay. I want to say OSHA or one of the regulatory agencies instated the 10' minimum clearance for industrials sometime around the early 1990s.
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Post by Adam D. on Jul 20, 2017 17:36:31 GMT -5
No, it's because New Fan installed a 2mf in those 48" 3 bladed models verses a 4mf cap in the 48" four wood blade models, which only gives them half the speed.. The only reasons I can think this was done is because I think they were afraid of law suites.. There was a time in the early 80s where there was injuries due to people putting body parts into a high speed metal fan going, If I remember correctly one happened involving a baby being thrown into the fan.. Either that, they were pissed with moss and decided to distribute them under powered fans, or they simply didn't know what the hell they were doing and was a conflict of info down the assembly line..
You could always modify them and replace the cap with a 4 or 5mf cap, and it will give it the fast speed It should have, but someone like me would not do that due to the ceiling not originally being equipped with them..
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Post by Obi-Wan Canopy on Jul 20, 2017 18:34:17 GMT -5
No, it's because New Fan installed a 2mf in those 48" 3 bladed models verses a 4mf cap in the 48" four wood blade models, which only gives them half the speed.. The only reasons I can think this was done is because I think they were afraid of law suites.. There was a time in the early 80s where there was injuries due to people putting body parts into a high speed metal fan going, If I remember correctly one happened involving a baby being thrown into the fan.. Either that, they were pissed with moss and decided to distribute them under powered fans, or they simply didn't know what the hell they were doing and was a conflict of info down the assembly line.. You could always modify them and replace the cap with a 4 or 5mf cap, and it will give it the fast speed It should have, but someone like me would not do that due to the ceiling not originally being equipped with them.. If the motor is not wound for that value of cap, it can cause damage. There's no way to know either than asking the manufacturer. I will usually go up 1uf without issue.
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Post by Adam D. on Jul 20, 2017 20:37:52 GMT -5
The 48" New Fan motors both 3 and 4 blade are most likely no different.. If I come across a fan that needs a cap and I can't find the right microfarad or combination I usually find the next higher/lower, in alot of cases is around a half of a microfarad, worst case scenario I go up 1mf.. Best case scenario I find the exact.. The okay scenario is I find something around - or + .5 of the original.. I don't like going up as far as 1uf, but if I have no choice I will.. If the cap has an uncommon value, it can be alot more expensive, and that's where I go to the next up/down.. Ask Alex "fanmaster911", he knows all about that stuff
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Post by John Shelley on Jul 20, 2017 22:06:33 GMT -5
No, it's because New Fan installed a 2mf in those 48" 3 bladed models verses a 4mf cap in the 48" four wood blade models, which only gives them half the speed.. The only reasons I can think this was done is because I think they were afraid of law suites.. There was a time in the early 80s where there was injuries due to people putting body parts into a high speed metal fan going, If I remember correctly one happened involving a baby being thrown into the fan.. Either that, they were pissed with moss and decided to distribute them under powered fans, or they simply didn't know what the hell they were doing and was a conflict of info down the assembly line.. You could always modify them and replace the cap with a 4 or 5mf cap, and it will give it the fast speed It should have, but someone like me would not do that due to the ceiling not originally being equipped with them.. I would want to use an optical tachometer and an amp meter while playing the capacitor values with the goal being to have RPM/amps be at the highest ratio, at that point the motor is running at the maximum efficiently going to higher capacitor (and current) values may make it spin faster but also makes it likely to over heat, lower valuers wastes potential power.
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Post by Adam D. on Jul 20, 2017 22:34:36 GMT -5
No, it's because New Fan installed a 2mf in those 48" 3 bladed models verses a 4mf cap in the 48" four wood blade models, which only gives them half the speed.. The only reasons I can think this was done is because I think they were afraid of law suites.. There was a time in the early 80s where there was injuries due to people putting body parts into a high speed metal fan going, If I remember correctly one happened involving a baby being thrown into the fan.. Either that, they were pissed with moss and decided to distribute them under powered fans, or they simply didn't know what the hell they were doing and was a conflict of info down the assembly line.. You could always modify them and replace the cap with a 4 or 5mf cap, and it will give it the fast speed It should have, but someone like me would not do that due to the ceiling not originally being equipped with them.. I would want to use an optical tachometer and an amp meter while playing the capacitor values with the goal being to have RPM/amps be at the highest ratio, at that point the motor is running at the maximum efficiently going to higher capacitor (and current) values may make it spin faster but also makes it likely to over heat, lower valuers wastes potential power. There's really no difference if you go lower in value by .5mf... -1mf you may notice a slower difference.. I rather not go lower in value if the cap is minus over -.6mf over the original cap, if I can't find +.5mf or .6mf of the original cap.. and I doubt they did any modification electronically to substitute a blade on those 48" New Fans.. checking the current and monitoring the heat would be a great idea incase they are different.. I suppose I could dig the two variations out of my storage locker and experiment..
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Post by Obi-Wan Canopy on Jul 21, 2017 1:01:38 GMT -5
No, it's because New Fan installed a 2mf in those 48" 3 bladed models verses a 4mf cap in the 48" four wood blade models, which only gives them half the speed.. The only reasons I can think this was done is because I think they were afraid of law suites.. There was a time in the early 80s where there was injuries due to people putting body parts into a high speed metal fan going, If I remember correctly one happened involving a baby being thrown into the fan.. Either that, they were pissed with moss and decided to distribute them under powered fans, or they simply didn't know what the hell they were doing and was a conflict of info down the assembly line.. You could always modify them and replace the cap with a 4 or 5mf cap, and it will give it the fast speed It should have, but someone like me would not do that due to the ceiling not originally being equipped with them.. I would want to use an optical tachometer and an amp meter while playing the capacitor values with the goal being to have RPM/amps be at the highest ratio, at that point the motor is running at the maximum efficiently going to higher capacitor (and current) values may make it spin faster but also makes it likely to over heat, lower valuers wastes potential power. It may be the highest efficiency but if it's what the motor is wound for it still may generate more heat than is ideal. Or it may run too slow. A lot of motors are not necessarily wound for maximum efficiency.
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Post by Andrew G. on Aug 9, 2017 11:28:02 GMT -5
Since Photobucket decided to essentially kill itself, I've been left with no choice but to find a new host. Aaaanyway.. now for your daily dose of WAT. I believe it's made by Ju Feng/Shi Chen. Another one of the spoils from July's parking lot shenanigans. Silkon spinner, ball/socket. Yay, impulse purchase. Boat anchors... ...Or are they? So I found one of my holy grails: The Westinghouse Deluxe. 38" Homestead Santa Cruz[ita], December 1993. Opened the switch housing to find rustic hell. Water got into the fan somehow, causing the molex plug to arc and the pullchain to split open. After a bit of surgery (cutting out the molex plug and hardwiring everything) and a new pullchain, it purrs. View Fan V36N (3-speed industrial), also an impulse purchase. Hunter Innova, c. 1991. This is only my third chrome fan.
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 9, 2017 13:44:13 GMT -5
That Ju Feng thing is awesome!
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 10, 2017 0:30:58 GMT -5
Nice finds!!! What host are you using for photos now?
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Post by Andrew G. on Sept 23, 2017 18:22:57 GMT -5
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Post by Adam D. on Sept 24, 2017 0:10:26 GMT -5
Lots of nice stuff there.. Who can go wrong with chunkness? That Palco looks like it was installed over drop ceiling..
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Post by fancollector12 on Sept 24, 2017 23:52:50 GMT -5
Nice finds!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 16:44:56 GMT -5
habitcrap? habittrap as well
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