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Post by John "Rockin" Reed on Nov 29, 2006 13:02:24 GMT -5
To elaborate on what I said regarding the originals...I remember their motors being powder blue, green, and red; and of course the brown and black 'steakhouse' type originals.
I've never seen originals in those unique colors anyplace else...I wonder if the motors were painted those colors or came naturally.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 15:41:12 GMT -5
Anyone remember the multi-colored polka-dot Original in magazine ads in the 80s? "This is the only way our fans are loud!"
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Post by Andrew G. on Nov 29, 2006 16:37:07 GMT -5
Anyone remember the multi-colored polka-dot Original in magazine ads in the 80s? "This is the only way our fans are loud!" I have to wonder what issue of National Geographic that article was in... If I knew, I'd try to find it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2006 16:45:41 GMT -5
I didnt see it in National Geographic, it was some home magazine. National Geographic had some really cool Casablanca ads.
I always wanted one of those multi-color Originals.
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Post by JW on Nov 29, 2006 19:02:12 GMT -5
I remember that ad... not only was it given a hideous paint job, two of the blades were turned backwards and the other two forward (I'm assuming Reversaire?)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2006 0:31:17 GMT -5
Ha. I was trying to remember if it was Reversaire or just standard horseshoe brackets.
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Post by organist89 on Jan 22, 2007 9:45:30 GMT -5
I remember going to both Epcot and Disney World a few times between 1994 and 1996. At that time, they were in "fan transition" period--some old ones, and some new ones. We were staying in one of the Epcot hotel rooms (run by Disney), and there was a fan in each of the two bedrooms and one in the kitchen--nothing remarkable, just 52" 4-blade late-1980's GE-vent 3-speed builder fans.
As was noted earlier in this thread, Disney World is "themed"--and certain parts have an old-time, fancy theme. I remember there being lots of 52" 4-blade brass Originals around those places. But then there were just regular-old outdoor places, like the food court, and there they'd have your basic mid-1990's outdoor fan--Gazebos, maybe.
I haven't been since 1996, but I'm betting that everything's probably pretty much cheap HB (Hampton Bay or Harbor Breeze, take your pick lol) crap now.
I find it both intriguing and disturbing, the evolution of fans in public places in the last 25 years. 25 years ago, most nice places (nice restaurants, family attractions, etc.) were installing Originals. Some places had Casablancas. Now, we all know that those fans didn't all magically break in the mid 1990's...but for SOME reason, they were all replaced with cheap Oriental spinner-motor fans. What I don't get is why people take fully-functional, expensive, high-quality appliances and just junk them in favor of something that's a much lesser product.
One thing I've found interesting is that when I show a picture of an Original to a normal, non-fan-collecting person, they almost always have this reaction: "that thing looks ancient". When I look at an Original, I see a really cool fan. But I guess that a non-fan person can be more objective. Admittedly, it isn't very modern looking, and the same design has been in use for a bazillion years.
It's interesting that people are always trying to modernize everything--as though there's something frightening about an old item. Personally, I'm a member of the "don't replace it 'till it's broke" camp.
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Post by mpeters on Jan 22, 2007 15:17:44 GMT -5
Hope I can shed some light in this as I've been to Disneyworld many times, the latest being in Nov. 2006.
Magic Kingdom Park; Still plenty of Originals. Look around in Adventureland and Frontierland especially. There is a brown 42" Original in the Frontierland Train station. There are also Casablanca Commodore Vanderbilts and New Orleans Centennials in some of the shops on Main Street. Alot of the Originals have been replaced with HB Gazebos but there are still many left.
Epcot; Not really any ceiling fans at all in this park.
Disney/MGM Studios; Originals in the queue area for The Little Mermaid show and Rock N' Roller Coaster. There are others, I just can't recall exactly where.
Disney's Animal Kingdom; There are alot of Originals around this park as well. There are some 42" Originals by the bathrooms in Asia. There are also originals in a structure near the Tree of Life. There are also Casablanca Lanais in the queue area for Dinosaur.
Throughout the resort most of the originals have been replaced by Hunter Sea Airs in the bus stops. There are at least 10 Antique Brass or Polished Brass Originals in the lobby of the Carribean Beach Resort. There is also an Antique Brass 42" Original in the hut where you rent the boats at the Polynesian Resort.
Look out at the Orlando Airport Hyatt Hotel. In the lobby there is a room that has about 20 White 42" Originals. It's sort of near the bar area overlooking the security checkpoint of the airport.
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Post by mpeters on Jan 22, 2007 15:20:15 GMT -5
Also, Disney usually doesn't replace anything until it's broken. That costs money. Trust me when an Original was replaced, it was because it was trashed. It's just too bad they haven't been replaced with new Originals although in some places I've seen them replace inferior fans with Originals.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 15:20:37 GMT -5
yeah i do recall too there still being alot of originals at magic kingdom. they sure do look beautiful in that country theming of frontierland as well, ive always liked that. i wonder what kind of classic fans would fit into tommorowland...
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Post by mpeters on Jan 22, 2007 16:05:03 GMT -5
In the Tomorrowland Skyway station there were two Casablanca Malibu Stars before the ride closed. The station is still there but the fans have been changed to Hunter Sea Airs. There are some other fans but they are large Vornado type fans hanging from the superstructure of buildings.
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Post by organist89 on Jan 22, 2007 16:18:21 GMT -5
i wonder what kind of classic fans would fit into tommorowland... I essentially grew up in north Jersey, hence my accent, but I did travel a lot to southeast Florida (Delray Beach/Boca Raton area) as a kid in the early and mid 1990's. My impression of 1980's southeast Florida is that there was an awful lot of hip, young pop culture. Miami had a huge gay scene (still does, but it's different now). Anyhow, it was all about the Duran Duran and and the multi-color neon flamingo lamps. And a part of that culture was that it was very...well...non-traditional. If you were to go into a bar in Maine, you probably would have seen wood-paneling, brass fixtures, black and white photos on the walls, etc. But if you went into a bar in Miami, you would have seen neon lights, cigarette smoke, and a disco ball. Being south Florida, ceiling fans were always needed. And in keeping with the hip pop culture, they weren't exactly putting in Casablanca Victorians with cane blades and 5-light kits all over the place. Anyhow, back to the main point: visiting family in that part of Florida in the early and mid 1990's, I got to see the remnants of the "roaring 80's". And by that, I specifically mean to say that I saw the ceiling fans from those party days. I would have to say--and this is just in my personal experience, based on the places I visited--that a very popular style of fan was the clear lucite-blade model, see here: www.vintageceilingfans.com/codepwtseriesceilingfan.htmlDon't get me wrong, there were plenty of traditionally-themed places that put up Victorians and Originals and such...I'm just talking about clubs and bars and other hip spots. Anyhow, I would have to say that that style of fan, the lucite-blade model, is the most "futuristic" of all the vintage ceiling fans. So, in response to your muse about what vintage fans might work for TommorowLand, I would have to say that my vote would be on the lucite fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 21:25:02 GMT -5
I find it both intriguing and disturbing, the evolution of fans in public places in the last 25 years. 25 years ago, most nice places (nice restaurants, family attractions, etc.) were installing Originals. Some places had Casablancas. Now, we all know that those fans didn't all magically break in the mid 1990's...but for SOME reason, they were all replaced with cheap Oriental spinner-motor fans. What I don't get is why people take fully-functional, expensive, high-quality appliances and just junk them in favor of something that's a much lesser product. Flywheels break. Blades and blade brackets get warped/bent and broken. Bearings get dry or gummed, pullchains/speed controls break. Fans in commercial locations take a lot of abuse and dont last nearly as long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2007 23:47:38 GMT -5
how do originals stand up to the outdoor weather??? if it were up to me at disney i would place industrials throughout all the oudoor locations... cool industrials of course that would last.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2007 13:59:05 GMT -5
They seem to hold up pretty well, especially the old ones. You'll see some rust but not a lot of badly warped blades, and they still run. In the south people have been mounting Originals on porches for decades.
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