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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jun 6, 2024 4:22:52 GMT -5
Here's something pretty cool and interesting I've been meaning to get for a while. We have been seeing these cool turquoise Jinling ceiling fans on various Chinese e-commerce discount platforms for some time. I finally decided to get some. The first model I got resembles a lot to an SMC KS. The only noticable difference is that the Jinling has the logo of the company molded on the bottom center of the motor. The SMC KS was only made in white and probably only available in 140 cm. This Jinling FC model also exists in white along with this awesome turquoise colour in both 120 and 140 cm. The quality is surprisingly good for today's standards. The blades are pretty wide, they have a distinctive pitched edge like on SMC KS and the curved is well pronounced. The performance is pretty impressive reaching an insane 330+ RPMS on high! Very quiet and humless on lower speeds. The included pole is 25 cm long. A very convenient length. The canopies are plastic. Like more and more spinners these days it does have a safety cable that attaches the motor to the extension pole in case the motor ever had to seperate from the pole. The circles on the bottom of the motor reminds me a little bit of TMT's from the 1980-1990's especially in this colour although TMT's were not made in turquoise but sky blue and only has grooves on the bottom of their motor. On these Jinling along with SMC KS the design is actual steps in circles on the bottom of the motor. I would have preferred an actual sky blue or medium blue fan as it's a nostalgic reminiscence of some blue fans I've seen as a child but turquoise is still very cool. Overall a very nice fan!      |
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Post by Tais on Jun 6, 2024 23:22:22 GMT -5
Very interesting fan! There is a very high chance its OEM is SMC, or its partially made by SMC, judging based on the parts i can see, such as the blade screws, blade arms, motor-downrod support, parts of the blade design, canopies and motor shape.. labels are very interesting and dont have the SMC'S typical date label, but their own instead
SMC KD series and krisbow fans that have the same shape as SMC KD have both bottom and top parts of the motor identical, i notice the top part of this motor is plain instead, which makes it more likely to be locally made in their factory instead of using SMC's motor stamp
The exact same canopies are used on SMC KS, KD, AK and AF series, and also used on Rexton and krisbow ceiling fans, which r both SMC OEM
The rpm is insane! I believe it could be 370 or even more than 400! The motor i think it is 12 or 14 pole running on 60hz, i notice its spinning even faster than 12 pole fans here running on 50hz
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jun 8, 2024 6:49:47 GMT -5
Very interesting fan! There is a very high chance its OEM is SMC, or its partially made by SMC, judging based on the parts i can see, such as the blade screws, blade arms, motor-downrod support, parts of the blade design, canopies and motor shape.. labels are very interesting and dont have the SMC'S typical date label, but their own instead SMC KD series and krisbow fans that have the same shape as SMC KD have both bottom and top parts of the motor identical, i notice the top part of this motor is plain instead, which makes it more likely to be locally made in their factory instead of using SMC's motor stamp The exact same canopies are used on SMC KS, KD, AK and AF series, and also used on Rexton and krisbow ceiling fans, which r both SMC OEM The rpm is insane! I believe it could be 370 or even more than 400! The motor i think it is 12 or 14 pole running on 60hz, i notice its spinning even faster than 12 pole fans here running on 50hz I do not own an SMC KS so I didn't know at what point it would be the same as one but from the ones I've seen you posted it seems SMC KS have a smaller lower canopy than Jinlings? On Jinlings the two canopies are of two different sizes. On SMC KS the canopies seems to be either the same size or the size difference is very minimal. I saw the typical SMC features Krisbow fans have that Jinling does not have. The screw placement on top of Jinling and Krisbow motors are different. The part of the blade arms that attaches to the motor on Jinling fans does not have a hole in the middle to fit the motor screws onto them like we see on a lot of SMC's. Krisbow and SMC KS motors appears flatter on the bottom and of course the Jinlings have the logo of their company molded on the bottom center of the motor as mentionned above. Like you mentioned Jinlings have a plain motor at the top while they are stepped on Krisbow. I guess in the second paragraph you meant SMC KS and not KD? Are the motors of SMC KS also stepped at the top? I noticed current Krisbow have skinner blades than both Jinling and SMC KS and does not seem to have the pitched edge. I imagine SMC KS were only made in white and beside Krisbow models actual SMC KS were probably only available in 140 cm? My idea is that Jinling makes their own fans especially considering that they have other models that look nothing like SMC's. When a fan reaches 300 rpms or more it becomes difficult to estimate the speed but I doubt it's doing 400 rpms. It seems to have a similar speed to a lot of indian fans of the same size which typically do between 330 to 360 rpms. 4 Saisons VA 120 cm also have a high speed around 330 rpms or slighly above. Sunwindy SW-103 is slightly slower at about 310-320. The voltage was slightly lowed at 208 volts to compensate for the higher frequency. 240V 60 Hz would be a little bit brutal for a 220V 50 Hz motor even though most of 50 Hz motors seems to run perfectly fine on 60 Hz. I added more photos that do more justice to the actual colour of the fan. |
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Post by Tais on Jun 11, 2024 4:06:54 GMT -5
Very interesting fan! There is a very high chance its OEM is SMC, or its partially made by SMC, judging based on the parts i can see, such as the blade screws, blade arms, motor-downrod support, parts of the blade design, canopies and motor shape.. labels are very interesting and dont have the SMC'S typical date label, but their own instead SMC KD series and krisbow fans that have the same shape as SMC KD have both bottom and top parts of the motor identical, i notice the top part of this motor is plain instead, which makes it more likely to be locally made in their factory instead of using SMC's motor stamp The exact same canopies are used on SMC KS, KD, AK and AF series, and also used on Rexton and krisbow ceiling fans, which r both SMC OEM The rpm is insane! I believe it could be 370 or even more than 400! The motor i think it is 12 or 14 pole running on 60hz, i notice its spinning even faster than 12 pole fans here running on 50hz I do not own an SMC KS so I didn't know at what point it would be the same as one but from the ones I've seen you posted it seems SMC KS have a smaller lower canopy than Jinlings? On Jinlings the two canopies are of two different sizes. On SMC KS the canopies seems to be either the same size or the size difference is very minimal. I saw the typical SMC features Krisbow fans have that Jinling does not have. The screw placement on top of Jinling and Krisbow motors are different. The part of the blade arms that attaches to the motor on Jinling fans does not have a hole in the middle to fit the motor screws onto them like we see on a lot of SMC's. Krisbow and SMC KS motors appears flatter on the bottom and of course the Jinlings have the logo of their company molded on the bottom center of the motor as mentionned above. Like you mentioned Jinlings have a plain motor at the top while they are stepped on Krisbow. I guess in the second paragraph you meant SMC KS and not KD? Are the motors of SMC KS also stepped at the top? I noticed current Krisbow have skinner blades than both Jinling and SMC KS and does not seem to have the pitched edge. I imagine SMC KS were only made in white and beside Krisbow models actual SMC KS were probably only available in 140 cm? My idea is that Jinling makes their own fans especially considering that they have other models that look nothing like SMC's. When a fan reaches 300 rpms or more it becomes difficult to estimate the speed but I doubt it's doing 400 rpms. It seems to have a similar speed to a lot of indian fans of the same size which typically do between 330 to 360 rpms. 4 Saisons VA 120 cm also have a high speed around 330 rpms or slighly above. Sunwindy SW-103 is slightly slower at about 310-320. The voltage was slightly lowed at 208 volts to compensate for the higher frequency. 240V 60 Hz would be a little bit brutal for a 220V 50 Hz motor even though most of 50 Hz motors seems to run perfectly fine on 60 Hz. I added more photos that do more justice to the actual colour of the fan. SMC KS canopies are different sizes, lower canopy smaller than the upper one, just now seeing the pics again, it seems u may have put the bigger canopy down and the smaller canopy up the mold of logo at the bottom can be also seen on Rexton, another SMC-made ceiling fan, it could be a customized thing made by SMC or it was made in house by Jinling.. yuo, i meant KS, KD was a typo honestly i dont know if SMC KS came in different colors or sizes, the model, unlike other SMC models, was never mentioned in their website the motor screw hole between 2 blade screw holes has been like that for all 56" SMC fans from late 1998 onwards, but for 48" blades (judging based on KN48) i did get some newer than 1998 that didnt have its center screw hole, ill need to check again to verify so i wont be in the wrong picture, there is a chance this wasnt done on the jinling as opposed to SMC's usual designs |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jun 12, 2024 4:13:14 GMT -5
I do not own an SMC KS so I didn't know at what point it would be the same as one but from the ones I've seen you posted it seems SMC KS have a smaller lower canopy than Jinlings? On Jinlings the two canopies are of two different sizes. On SMC KS the canopies seems to be either the same size or the size difference is very minimal. I saw the typical SMC features Krisbow fans have that Jinling does not have. The screw placement on top of Jinling and Krisbow motors are different. The part of the blade arms that attaches to the motor on Jinling fans does not have a hole in the middle to fit the motor screws onto them like we see on a lot of SMC's. Krisbow and SMC KS motors appears flatter on the bottom and of course the Jinlings have the logo of their company molded on the bottom center of the motor as mentionned above. Like you mentioned Jinlings have a plain motor at the top while they are stepped on Krisbow. I guess in the second paragraph you meant SMC KS and not KD? Are the motors of SMC KS also stepped at the top? I noticed current Krisbow have skinner blades than both Jinling and SMC KS and does not seem to have the pitched edge. I imagine SMC KS were only made in white and beside Krisbow models actual SMC KS were probably only available in 140 cm? My idea is that Jinling makes their own fans especially considering that they have other models that look nothing like SMC's. When a fan reaches 300 rpms or more it becomes difficult to estimate the speed but I doubt it's doing 400 rpms. It seems to have a similar speed to a lot of indian fans of the same size which typically do between 330 to 360 rpms. 4 Saisons VA 120 cm also have a high speed around 330 rpms or slighly above. Sunwindy SW-103 is slightly slower at about 310-320. The voltage was slightly lowed at 208 volts to compensate for the higher frequency. 240V 60 Hz would be a little bit brutal for a 220V 50 Hz motor even though most of 50 Hz motors seems to run perfectly fine on 60 Hz. I added more photos that do more justice to the actual colour of the fan. SMC KS canopies are different sizes, lower canopy smaller than the upper one, just now seeing the pics again, it seems u may have put the bigger canopy down and the smaller canopy up the mold of logo at the bottom can be also seen on Rexton, another SMC-made ceiling fan, it could be a customized thing made by SMC or it was made in house by Jinling.. yuo, i meant KS, KD was a typo honestly i dont know if SMC KS came in different colors or sizes, the model, unlike other SMC models, was never mentioned in their website the motor screw hole between 2 blade screw holes has been like that for all 56" SMC fans from late 1998 onwards, but for 48" blades (judging based on KN48) i did get some newer than 1998 that didnt have its center screw hole, ill need to check again to verify so i wont be in the wrong picture, there is a chance this wasnt done on the jinling as opposed to SMC's usual designs I usually prefer much when the bigger canopy is up and the smaller one is down like on a 4 Saisons VA but Jinling shows their fans on the images on their boxes and online images installed this way with the bigger canopy that has the logo down which is why I installed it this way. It would indeed be a little bit strange if the logo on the bigger canopy would had to be read from down going up. In latin script, if something has to be written vertically it's usually read from up going down. I don't know about SMC K48 but I know current K36 don't have a motor screw placed in between two blade arm screws. |
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