Post by ceilingfansmalta on Oct 30, 2023 12:56:18 GMT -5
It's been quite a while since I last posted on the forum.
In the meantime I have come across lots of supposedly answers on Relite Fans Ltd (and still a couple of mysteries)!
I have started a new academic year in a new block, and on the ground floor there are two vintage fans, I think Revo! One of these seems to have had a bad accident with one of the blades, making it wobble a lot! Worth mentioning there are also two half ALIC - half GMC-made Evernal fans. I think they were added some years ago, one on each side of the wobbly Revo, and knowing ALIC to be a garbage brand, they had their motor and blades replaced by Evernal, but they are even more garbage, to the point that on speed 3 of 5, one of them starts up very slowly. Yet, the Revo, which to be fair, is only connected to an on/off switch is much more powerful, despite having the badly bent blade
Then on the second floor there are lots of Relite fans with a white upper cover and iron blades. In one particular room there are 8 of them! I was told that one of them makes scary noises when operating, and it was a true hazard, as one of the blades is bent upwards and the motor bolt has come loose, causing it to sway and make noises, but luckily the staff are working on fixing it. In another room there are 3 fans and three mounting brackets with just the rubber on them, because the fans had been removed at some point in time.
Only this morning, the technician managed to find an extra wall control for me! Here lies one of the mysteries about Relite: How are the wall controls triac powered, but still do not produce loud humming? I noted there is like a solenoid inside it, but I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary other than that... I immediately installed it this afternoon with my Relite Rapide MKII in the kitchen, and it only hums slightly on the lower speeds.
Another mystery is the motor configuration of the old Relites. I once saw that they have 8+8 pole motors, but at the same time are not extremely fast as are Polar Super Speed fans, which are also 8 pole! Maybe it's because the poles are so spaced out?
Are the motor covers made of plastic?
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There are some answers I obtained in the past year:
Q: How are the Relite Rapide MKII fans related to the original Relite?
A: According to multiple sources, it is evident that Crompton Greaves, apparently provided parts such as blades, motors, shackles, capacitors, etc, to brands outside India, as were the British Relite, O.Erre, Elicent, and Orieme. How they are not marked as made in India, is strange. At one point I saw an Orieme, which is a 100% copy of Crompton Senorita in Pista-White colour and marked to be "Italian Design"! On the other hand one of my Relite Rapide MKII fans has a Crompton Greaves capacitor, but the logo is very faint. It says something like "Specially manufactured for Crompton Greaves".
Q: Who sold Relite and Relite Rapide MKII fans in Malta?
A: Calleja Ltd. After asking multiple people who own/ed Relite fans, I was finally told it was Calleja Ltd. I was told that at at one point they shifted production to India.
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Other news:
I went to JB Stores last June, and I found out that just one day before, over 30 fans were taken to the landfill! If I was there the previous day it would have been a jackpot, as it is referred to by Pankaat! All the old Relites, the best Rapide MKIIs of the store, and 3 Havells Velocity!
In September I acquired a Taiwanese fan, which has no idea of safety in its design! The motor has big holes at the bottom, through which dust can enter and jam the bearings. The motor is designed in a way that the 3 wires from the stator keep going up the down rod and come out near the shackle, which has a capacitor fixed to it. The motor has no bolt, but just a thread-less pin with a split pin; it is like having a lose motor bolt, which will wear out due to friction. The stator is 16 pole and wide, but does not have much torque. The blades are 52 inch unusually, and are super heavy, yet super flimsy, and made of iron. The colour is said to be beige, but it more looks like a a white fan that has got discoloured. I will keep the rotor and stator, to do something custom perhaps...
So that's it for the time being, I will try to do the videos I have long ago told you about.
Thanks!
In the meantime I have come across lots of supposedly answers on Relite Fans Ltd (and still a couple of mysteries)!
I have started a new academic year in a new block, and on the ground floor there are two vintage fans, I think Revo! One of these seems to have had a bad accident with one of the blades, making it wobble a lot! Worth mentioning there are also two half ALIC - half GMC-made Evernal fans. I think they were added some years ago, one on each side of the wobbly Revo, and knowing ALIC to be a garbage brand, they had their motor and blades replaced by Evernal, but they are even more garbage, to the point that on speed 3 of 5, one of them starts up very slowly. Yet, the Revo, which to be fair, is only connected to an on/off switch is much more powerful, despite having the badly bent blade
Then on the second floor there are lots of Relite fans with a white upper cover and iron blades. In one particular room there are 8 of them! I was told that one of them makes scary noises when operating, and it was a true hazard, as one of the blades is bent upwards and the motor bolt has come loose, causing it to sway and make noises, but luckily the staff are working on fixing it. In another room there are 3 fans and three mounting brackets with just the rubber on them, because the fans had been removed at some point in time.
Only this morning, the technician managed to find an extra wall control for me! Here lies one of the mysteries about Relite: How are the wall controls triac powered, but still do not produce loud humming? I noted there is like a solenoid inside it, but I couldn't see anything out of the ordinary other than that... I immediately installed it this afternoon with my Relite Rapide MKII in the kitchen, and it only hums slightly on the lower speeds.
Another mystery is the motor configuration of the old Relites. I once saw that they have 8+8 pole motors, but at the same time are not extremely fast as are Polar Super Speed fans, which are also 8 pole! Maybe it's because the poles are so spaced out?
Are the motor covers made of plastic?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There are some answers I obtained in the past year:
Q: How are the Relite Rapide MKII fans related to the original Relite?
A: According to multiple sources, it is evident that Crompton Greaves, apparently provided parts such as blades, motors, shackles, capacitors, etc, to brands outside India, as were the British Relite, O.Erre, Elicent, and Orieme. How they are not marked as made in India, is strange. At one point I saw an Orieme, which is a 100% copy of Crompton Senorita in Pista-White colour and marked to be "Italian Design"! On the other hand one of my Relite Rapide MKII fans has a Crompton Greaves capacitor, but the logo is very faint. It says something like "Specially manufactured for Crompton Greaves".
Q: Who sold Relite and Relite Rapide MKII fans in Malta?
A: Calleja Ltd. After asking multiple people who own/ed Relite fans, I was finally told it was Calleja Ltd. I was told that at at one point they shifted production to India.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Other news:
I went to JB Stores last June, and I found out that just one day before, over 30 fans were taken to the landfill! If I was there the previous day it would have been a jackpot, as it is referred to by Pankaat! All the old Relites, the best Rapide MKIIs of the store, and 3 Havells Velocity!
In September I acquired a Taiwanese fan, which has no idea of safety in its design! The motor has big holes at the bottom, through which dust can enter and jam the bearings. The motor is designed in a way that the 3 wires from the stator keep going up the down rod and come out near the shackle, which has a capacitor fixed to it. The motor has no bolt, but just a thread-less pin with a split pin; it is like having a lose motor bolt, which will wear out due to friction. The stator is 16 pole and wide, but does not have much torque. The blades are 52 inch unusually, and are super heavy, yet super flimsy, and made of iron. The colour is said to be beige, but it more looks like a a white fan that has got discoloured. I will keep the rotor and stator, to do something custom perhaps...
So that's it for the time being, I will try to do the videos I have long ago told you about.
Thanks!
