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Post by ssj925 on Sept 5, 2021 14:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by Adin Panthers on Sept 5, 2021 16:20:41 GMT -5
The Saturn is definitely a yes to definitely grab it. I would get it since they're mostly out of reach (especially for me in Oregon because it's really annoying for me to find them in reach with me). The motor will depend on the label, so always check the label before you know it's an Emerson or Samsung. Look out for Hunter Originals, Emersons, antiques, and high class fans near you. The Panama 5 is way common because it's a "budget" Casablanca, so by how common they are, the Saturn is a result to get. You also notice the Saturn in the listing in an early Saturn light with only one intermediate base socket, then they switched it over to the 3 intermediate sockets, and one halogen bulb. Casablanca changed the light sockets because they wanted to make it have more light.
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 5, 2021 16:34:04 GMT -5
The Saturn is definitely a yes to definitely grab it. I would get it since they're mostly out of reach (especially for me in Oregon because it's really annoying for me to find them in reach with me). The motor will depend on the label, so always check the label before you know it's an Emerson or Samsung. Look out for Hunter Originals, Emersons, antiques, and high class fans near you. The Panama 5 is way common because it's a "budget" Casablanca, so by how common they are, the Saturn is a result to get. You also notice the Saturn in the listing in an early Saturn light with only one intermediate base socket, then they switched it over to the 3 intermediate sockets, and one halogen bulb. Casablanca changed the light sockets because they wanted to make it have more light. Thanks for the reply. This is the only label they sent me: i.ibb.co/N28VBWk/8-ADF7692-5-B4-D-4221-A5-AF-6650-E90-AC5-DF.jpgAnd they seemed to add an adapter for the light socket, allowing standard bulbs I believe: i.ibb.co/3C8Ty4S/DC2-CFBF6-EE7-E-47-B8-AC31-BB50713-D48-F5.jpgHonestly in northern california I haven’t found too many nice fans. This is the first time seeing a saturn in ca. i did find one hunter original nos a few weeks ago.
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Post by Adin Panthers on Sept 5, 2021 17:53:04 GMT -5
The Saturn is definitely a yes to definitely grab it. I would get it since they're mostly out of reach (especially for me in Oregon because it's really annoying for me to find them in reach with me). The motor will depend on the label, so always check the label before you know it's an Emerson or Samsung. Look out for Hunter Originals, Emersons, antiques, and high class fans near you. The Panama 5 is way common because it's a "budget" Casablanca, so by how common they are, the Saturn is a result to get. You also notice the Saturn in the listing in an early Saturn light with only one intermediate base socket, then they switched it over to the 3 intermediate sockets, and one halogen bulb. Casablanca changed the light sockets because they wanted to make it have more light. Thanks for the reply. This is the only label they sent me: i.ibb.co/N28VBWk/8-ADF7692-5-B4-D-4221-A5-AF-6650-E90-AC5-DF.jpgAnd they seemed to add an adapter for the light socket, allowing standard bulbs I believe: i.ibb.co/3C8Ty4S/DC2-CFBF6-EE7-E-47-B8-AC31-BB50713-D48-F5.jpgHonestly in northern california I haven’t found too many nice fans. This is the first time seeing a saturn in ca. i did find one hunter original nos a few weeks ago. AV19478 = January 19, 1987. Was the 478th fan made in that day. The fan in the listing is installed with a ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. The best you can do is to add a recall clip for the safety when you get the fan. Some people would say it would be fine without the recall clip, but I don't believe in that danger. The Fan Lifter is only safe with the ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. I've been told "what you need to take into account really is how old the neighborhoods are and what year the fans were most popular and well distributed in." Some quality fans don't pop up as frequently because: people don't remodel as often, or people have already remodeled and replaced the fans years ago. You can make guesses but it wouldn't mean it's a solid answer.
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 5, 2021 20:17:36 GMT -5
AV19478 = January 19, 1987. Was the 478th fan made in that day. The fan in the listing is installed with a ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. The best you can do is to add a recall clip for the safety when you get the fan. Some people would say it would be fine without the recall clip, but I don't believe in that danger. The Fan Lifter is only safe with the ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. I've been told "what you need to take into account really is how old the neighborhoods are and what year the fans were most popular and well distributed in." Some quality fans don't pop up as frequently because: people don't remodel as often, or people have already remodeled and replaced the fans years ago. You can make guesses but it wouldn't mean it's a solid answer. Ok so we had agreed on $40 and meeting halfway then I got hit with this. Anyone know what this could be? Still worth getting? “ My husband just remembered that the fan has a flaw so we shouldn't sell it to you or anyone else. Sorry. The problem was that the light would dim way down but not completely turn off when running the fan. I thought that it was just the light bulb but he is concerned that it might possibly be in the fan. lapologize. Please let me know that you received my email. Thank you.”
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Post by Noah C on Sept 5, 2021 20:35:56 GMT -5
AV19478 = January 19, 1987. Was the 478th fan made in that day. The fan in the listing is installed with a ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. The best you can do is to add a recall clip for the safety when you get the fan. Some people would say it would be fine without the recall clip, but I don't believe in that danger. The Fan Lifter is only safe with the ribbed recalled Hang-Tru. I've been told "what you need to take into account really is how old the neighborhoods are and what year the fans were most popular and well distributed in." Some quality fans don't pop up as frequently because: people don't remodel as often, or people have already remodeled and replaced the fans years ago. You can make guesses but it wouldn't mean it's a solid answer. Ok so we had agreed on $40 and meeting halfway then I got hit with this. Anyone know what this could be? Still worth getting? “ My husband just remembered that the fan has a flaw so we shouldn't sell it to you or anyone else. Sorry. The problem was that the light would dim way down but not completely turn off when running the fan. I thought that it was just the light bulb but he is concerned that it might possibly be in the fan. lapologize. Please let me know that you received my email. Thank you.” Seems more like user error than anything to me; if they're dimming the light then it should dim and not turn off, then return to full brightness as you press and hold the button. But if I'm misunderstanding this and they're saying that the light gets really dim when the fan is turned on, then that likely has to do with either the wiring at the control or a weird issue with the IT board. I'd still get the fan if I were you, and test it before you find someplace to install it.
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 5, 2021 20:52:14 GMT -5
Ok so we had agreed on $40 and meeting halfway then I got hit with this. Anyone know what this could be? Still worth getting? “ My husband just remembered that the fan has a flaw so we shouldn't sell it to you or anyone else. Sorry. The problem was that the light would dim way down but not completely turn off when running the fan. I thought that it was just the light bulb but he is concerned that it might possibly be in the fan. lapologize. Please let me know that you received my email. Thank you.” Seems more like user error than anything to me; if they're dimming the light then it should dim and not turn off, then return to full brightness as you press and hold the button. But if I'm misunderstanding this and they're saying that the light gets really dim when the fan is turned on, then that likely has to do with either the wiring at the control or a weird issue with the IT board. I'd still get the fan if I were you, and test it before you find someplace to install it. Here’s the reply I got about the issue. They said I can have the fan for free but just need to drive up to get it: The light works fine when turned “on” (regardless of the fan setting). And the light turns off completely when everything (light and fan, entire unit) is turned “off”. The issue is: when the fan is “on”, but the light is turned “off”, the bulb still glows dimly! This just started a couple months ago. We had to un-screw the bulb to run the fan but have the room dark.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 6, 2021 14:09:39 GMT -5
Seems more like user error than anything to me; if they're dimming the light then it should dim and not turn off, then return to full brightness as you press and hold the button. But if I'm misunderstanding this and they're saying that the light gets really dim when the fan is turned on, then that likely has to do with either the wiring at the control or a weird issue with the IT board. I'd still get the fan if I were you, and test it before you find someplace to install it. Here’s the reply I got about the issue. They said I can have the fan for free but just need to drive up to get it: The light works fine when turned “on” (regardless of the fan setting). And the light turns off completely when everything (light and fan, entire unit) is turned “off”. The issue is: when the fan is “on”, but the light is turned “off”, the bulb still glows dimly! This just started a couple months ago. We had to un-screw the bulb to run the fan but have the room dark. That's a strange issue I've never heard of. Sounds like that IT board is on its way out. But definitely get the fan; I'd never turn down a Saturn, especially for free at that. Again, I'd test it out once you pick it up to see if you can replicate the issue, but even if it has that issue it's worth fixing and keeping. There's plenty of collectors here and in the Facebook fan groups that have replacement IT boards for these and there's online repair centers like Fan Man Lighting that have repair kits for IT Casas too.
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Post by Adin Panthers on Sept 6, 2021 15:23:23 GMT -5
Here’s the reply I got about the issue. They said I can have the fan for free but just need to drive up to get it: The light works fine when turned “on” (regardless of the fan setting). And the light turns off completely when everything (light and fan, entire unit) is turned “off”. The issue is: when the fan is “on”, but the light is turned “off”, the bulb still glows dimly! This just started a couple months ago. We had to un-screw the bulb to run the fan but have the room dark. That's a strange issue I've never heard of. Sounds like that IT board is on its way out. But definitely get the fan; I'd never turn down a Saturn, especially for free at that. Again, I'd test it out once you pick it up to see if you can replicate the issue, but even if it has that issue it's worth fixing and keeping. There's plenty of collectors here and in the Facebook fan groups that have replacement IT boards for these and there's online repair centers like Fan Man Lighting that have repair kits for IT Casas too. Sadly, the only issue with the Fan Man Lighting conversion kit is that you lose 6 of the half speeds on the fan.
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 6, 2021 15:53:20 GMT -5
Here’s the reply I got about the issue. They said I can have the fan for free but just need to drive up to get it: The light works fine when turned “on” (regardless of the fan setting). And the light turns off completely when everything (light and fan, entire unit) is turned “off”. The issue is: when the fan is “on”, but the light is turned “off”, the bulb still glows dimly! This just started a couple months ago. We had to un-screw the bulb to run the fan but have the room dark. That's a strange issue I've never heard of. Sounds like that IT board is on its way out. But definitely get the fan; I'd never turn down a Saturn, especially for free at that. Again, I'd test it out once you pick it up to see if you can replicate the issue, but even if it has that issue it's worth fixing and keeping. There's plenty of collectors here and in the Facebook fan groups that have replacement IT boards for these and there's online repair centers like Fan Man Lighting that have repair kits for IT Casas too. So good news. Fan is in excellent condition. Only issue is two of the 5 blades have the weights attached to the side I wanted to use so I’ll see if i can remove them without damaging the blades. As a bonus they gave me a second inteli touch controller!! He said he found it in the house and it must have been a spare he had but never used. I met them halfway and gave them $20 since I didn’t wanna drive all the way. That's a strange issue I've never heard of. Sounds like that IT board is on its way out. But definitely get the fan; I'd never turn down a Saturn, especially for free at that. Again, I'd test it out once you pick it up to see if you can replicate the issue, but even if it has that issue it's worth fixing and keeping. There's plenty of collectors here and in the Facebook fan groups that have replacement IT boards for these and there's online repair centers like Fan Man Lighting that have repair kits for IT Casas too. Sadly, the only issue with the Fan Man Lighting conversion kit is that you lose 6 of the half speeds on the fan.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 6, 2021 16:17:01 GMT -5
That's a strange issue I've never heard of. Sounds like that IT board is on its way out. But definitely get the fan; I'd never turn down a Saturn, especially for free at that. Again, I'd test it out once you pick it up to see if you can replicate the issue, but even if it has that issue it's worth fixing and keeping. There's plenty of collectors here and in the Facebook fan groups that have replacement IT boards for these and there's online repair centers like Fan Man Lighting that have repair kits for IT Casas too. So good news. Fan is in excellent condition. Only issue is two of the 5 blades have the weights attached to the side I wanted to use so I’ll see if i can remove them without damaging the blades. As a bonus they gave me a second inteli touch controller!! He said he found it in the house and it must have been a spare he had but never used. I met them halfway and gave them $20 since I didn’t wanna drive all the way. Sadly, the only issue with the Fan Man Lighting conversion kit is that you lose 6 of the half speeds on the fan. Good to hear. Don't pull the weights off too fast, just ease them off...and if you don't want to deal with both blades' weights, you can always install the fan with 4 blades assuming it's got a 4/5b flywheel. Extra IT controllers are always handy too; looks like those sellers were great. Speaking of IT, the issue with the fan could've been a simple wiring issue at the ceiling so it might not have been as bad as I thought. Let me know what it does when you're able to test it 🙂
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 7, 2021 0:19:05 GMT -5
Haven't had the time to install today. Will test outside tomorrow and then install inside. Here's some pics. I decided to try three blades with the gold marks and two without. The weights are small metal weights and it looks like there's a mark under the weight so if I remove them the blades will have a mark. Btw these blades seem to be a bit longer than standard 52" blades. Is this fan larger than 52"?
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Post by Noah C on Sept 7, 2021 9:43:47 GMT -5
Haven't had the time to install today. Will test outside tomorrow and then install inside. Here's some pics. I decided to try three blades with the gold marks and two without. The weights are small metal weights and it looks like there's a mark under the weight so if I remove them the blades will have a mark. Btw these blades seem to be a bit longer than standard 52" blades. Is this fan larger than 52"? Fan is beautiful as all Saturns are. You may want to just use the side w/o stencil if the marks are really bad, but you should be able to get the marks off by scrubbing them with Pledge or Windex and a microfiber cloth. So Saturns are 53" fans. The blades are 22.5" long, 1.5" longer than normal 21" blades (which are 50" on Casas w/ short Panama brackets). Most people seem to think they're 52" but if you check the catalogs you'll see it listed as 53".
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Post by ssj925 on Sept 7, 2021 19:04:01 GMT -5
Haven't had the time to install today. Will test outside tomorrow and then install inside. Here's some pics. I decided to try three blades with the gold marks and two without. The weights are small metal weights and it looks like there's a mark under the weight so if I remove them the blades will have a mark. Btw these blades seem to be a bit longer than standard 52" blades. Is this fan larger than 52"? Fan is beautiful as all Saturns are. You may want to just use the side w/o stencil if the marks are really bad, but you should be able to get the marks off by scrubbing them with Pledge or Windex and a microfiber cloth. So Saturns are 53" fans. The blades are 22.5" long, 1.5" longer than normal 21" blades (which are 50" on Casas w/ short Panama brackets). Most people seem to think they're 52" but if you check the catalogs you'll see it listed as 53". Ok so I tested both controllers outside. They both act the exact same. The light only turns off when the power switch is turned off. The light turns on full brightness with 1 flick of the light switch. The next flick which should turn it off does not turn it off. The bulb stays dimly lit. This does not change by the fan behavior. Even with fan off the light never turns off completely until I press the power switch. Now my question is, should I be concerned? Seems like a small inconvenience more than anything but at the same time if this is dangerous then I don’t wanna install the fan. The other thing is, I’m using a standard led bulb using that adapter they provided. I do not have any bulb that fits the original socket nor do I have the halogen bulb so could it simply be the bulb type?
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Post by Adin Panthers on Sept 7, 2021 20:07:30 GMT -5
Fan is beautiful as all Saturns are. You may want to just use the side w/o stencil if the marks are really bad, but you should be able to get the marks off by scrubbing them with Pledge or Windex and a microfiber cloth. So Saturns are 53" fans. The blades are 22.5" long, 1.5" longer than normal 21" blades (which are 50" on Casas w/ short Panama brackets). Most people seem to think they're 52" but if you check the catalogs you'll see it listed as 53". Ok so I tested both controllers outside. They both act the exact same. The light only turns off when the power switch is turned off. The light turns on full brightness with 1 flick of the light switch. The next flick which should turn it off does not turn it off. The bulb stays dimly lit. This does not change by the fan behavior. Even with fan off the light never turns off completely until I press the power switch. Now my question is, should I be concerned? Seems like a small inconvenience more than anything but at the same time if this is dangerous then I don’t wanna install the fan. The other thing is, I’m using a standard led bulb using that adapter they provided. I do not have any bulb that fits the original socket nor do I have the halogen bulb so could it simply be the bulb type? If you have a specific LED bulb brand and dimmable, it will work. Ecosmart is a good light bulb brand to start with. But I think there's something wrong with the LDM. My guess is someone used the wrong LED bulb type and used a non-dimmable LED. You can do soldering to repair the board if you know what you're doing.
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