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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 21, 2017 21:04:19 GMT -5
Here's my second acquisition for 2017. I finally got my first Indian fan! I got this at the end of April, new in the box. It's a current model but it turns out I got an older stock of 2003. I found this cool, I was not disappointed of that even though that implies that the fan might have bearings problems for having been made more than ten years ago and have never turn all this time which was the case. At first it was stiff and could not handle the lowest speed. After running it on high bladeless it unblocked the lowest speed. Occasionally I got humming problems on the two lower speeds which is caused by the condition of the bearings. I oiled the bottom bearing which got rid of humming noise on the lowest speed. It still does it from time to time on the second lowest speed but really not as loud. Another thing that suprised me about it is the ball and socket mounting. I knew they used it on some of their models but I was not aware that they used this mounting on this model.
I've been wanting my first Indian fan for a while and a Cinni was the easiest I could find outside of South Asia and Africa. They are made pretty differently than regular Indian fans though, the shape of the motor and nut is quite unique especially for today standards. They have been making their fans this way for a while without changing much the design. I'm not sure exactly since when but definitely since at least the 1980's and possibly since the 1960's. The company was founded in 1962. The shape and style of the motor does remind me of fans of the area and the nut, that I love is a reminiscence of GEC Kingsways from the 1930-1940's. On top of the motor is a metal tag instead of a sticker for the technical infos.
The Burma is a much more uncommon model with teakwood blades instead of metallic blades like seen on the more popular Bombay model. These brass triangular shape brackets are unique to this model. It's my first three wood bladed fan. Their fans are more common in 140 cm but I love the proportions of the 120 cm version. I love their metal blade models too but I didn't wanted to get one in all chrome as it's just a too common finish for metal spinners and glossy black and chrome would not have matched my decor at all even though they look beautiful in that combination. I love the combination of glossy black and polished brass on a spinner. It's even more reminiscent of fans from the early 20th Century.
It's very very powerful and uses an 18 pole motor. I get a good range of speeds with it with a 4-speed slider. RPM estimation: 40/110/200/270
The instructions suggest 270 RPMS on high but it seems faster to me especially considering I got a 120 cm version and the motor can take a 140 cm blade span.
Here it is in motion and you get to see the box and the metallic tag on top of the motor.
Pictures to come very soon.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 21, 2017 21:18:33 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 7:28:49 GMT -5
What kind of speed control did it come with? If I recall correctly, they only come with a plain boring flush-mount control.
If they included an old style chuncky five speed controller, that would be magnificent.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 22, 2017 15:16:54 GMT -5
What kind of speed control did it come with? If I recall correctly, they only come with a plain boring flush-mount control. If they included an old style chuncky five speed controller, that would be magnificent. Oh yes I did not mentionned that. Normally Cinnis comes with a metallic chrome and black round 5-speed controller but theses controllers are only offered with 230 volts 50 Hz models. I'm not that disappointed that they don't have them for 120 volts 60 Hz models because they probably would have not gave such a good range of speeds and a relatively fast low speed. |
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Post by Cole S. on May 22, 2017 19:34:41 GMT -5
I love it. Really everything about it, and it's even more awesome because it's really very classic in design but the finishes and minimalist style could still slide right in with the trends today. Very timeless.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 23, 2017 4:34:10 GMT -5
I love it. Really everything about it, and it's even more awesome because it's really very classic in design but the finishes and minimalist style could still slide right in with the trends today. Very timeless. Very timeless indeed. It's difficult to describe to what area should it be from as it's a mixture from various different decades of the 20th Century and even of today styles. Glossy black and polished brass is actually the most vintage and classic style finish they have. Their other finishes are contemporary as you can see some examples shown on the side of the box such as matte black, chrome, glossy black and chrome and oil rubbed bronze. The two last ones can be seen from some of my recent sightings. I was wondering if you know what's the difference between a 16 pole and a 18 pole motor. |
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Post by Cole S. on May 24, 2017 14:22:05 GMT -5
Usually I love a good chrome, but I'm just in love with the gold and wood blades on your fan. It's really beautiful. And I think I prefer the ball/socket canopy, oddly enough.
I'm not as informed on topics of that technicality; even after taking an in-depth class on motors I still just don't really grasp all the concepts behind science and engineering. I mean I could establish the obvious physical difference of the motors, but couldn't tell you all the facts or pros and cons of each.
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Post by Jordan U on May 24, 2017 14:43:45 GMT -5
Generally more poles creates more power at a slower speed.. Fewer poles is more speed but less power..
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 27, 2017 3:14:28 GMT -5
Usually I love a good chrome, but I'm just in love with the gold and wood blades on your fan. It's really beautiful. And I think I prefer the ball/socket canopy, oddly enough. I'm not as informed on topics of that technicality; even after taking an in-depth class on motors I still just don't really grasp all the concepts behind science and engineering. I mean I could establish the obvious physical difference of the motors, but couldn't tell you all the facts or pros and cons of each. I didn't choose chrome mostly because it's not a finish unique to Cinni fans at all, it has gotten very common on metal fans. The other classic finish combination they have is the same as this with brass metal blades. For 230 volts models they have further more choices and so many different combinations of blade finish and motor finish combination. The price can fluctuate a lot depending on the finish which is why I didn't choose the version with brass metal blades. For the appearance I prefer the slip up canopy, which is like the bottom one this one have, but for my installation ball and socket is more practical. I always though 18 poles motors are somewhat more powerful and more durable but do consume more power. This one is only 80 watts though. Some say that fans with 18 pole motors buzzes less on a variable speed controller. |
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Post by Tais on May 27, 2017 10:43:08 GMT -5
The more poles the fan has, the slower and more powerful it is, the less poles it has, the faster and weaker it is..
Usually number of poles dont affect in the buzzing of the fan when operated through the regulator.. speeds are sometimes affected based on the fan itself, from my experience with using a SMC controller for lots of different fans, i found out each fan behaves differently with the speeds
Usually if the fan reached its max speed easily or really spins so fast at max, it will most likely have a fast low speed, if the fan is designed to spin high at speed below its max speed or takes a long time to accelerate and barely reaches its max it will most likely have a very slow low speed and probably a slow 2nd fast speed
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 27, 2017 22:26:06 GMT -5
The more poles the fan has, the slower and more powerful it is, the less poles it has, the faster and weaker it is.. Usually number of poles dont affect in the buzzing of the fan when operated through the regulator.. speeds are sometimes affected based on the fan itself, from my experience with using a SMC controller for lots of different fans, i found out each fan behaves differently with the speeds Usually if the fan reached its max speed easily or really spins so fast at max, it will most likely have a fast low speed, if the fan is designed to spin high at speed below its max speed or takes a long time to accelerate and barely reaches its max it will most likely have a very slow low speed and probably a slow 2nd fast speed Most of variable speed controller makes most of fans buzzes a lot but they are certain fans that will buzz a lot less. Of Course they are never as quiet as with when using capacitor or transformer controllers. The most unpredictable ones are transformer controller that sometimes makes fans spins very quietly like with capacitors controller but sometimes will add a little hum. Variable speed controller make fans always noisy to a different degree as mentionned above and capacitor ones always quiet. That would also be the difference between low torque motors and high torques ones. I noticed motors made in China and Taiwan tend to be high torque and Hong Kong ones low torque with slow accelerations but once up to speed very powerful with a slow low. This Cinni seems like it would be a low torque fan which seems unusual for an Indian fan but again these fans are made pretty differently than regular Indian fans. |
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