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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 1, 2016 2:56:11 GMT -5
So Best Buy gave me a $400 gift card when I got my new Samsung Galaxy S7 phone from them. I decided to see if they sold Hunter Originals. It turns out, they do, for $449.99. Long story short, I went ahead and bought a NEW Hunter Original, model 23845, in White, from their website (yes, they DO sell em). I actually got the fan for $389.51, just by using the promo code SAVEONSMALLS at checkout, since that was a limited-time promo code. Brian Hicks did a review of one on YouTube, and while they're still Taiwanese made, they went back to using the old-style 4in shaft, and Brian recommends them, saying that they're "the highest build quality Original to come out of Hunter since the 1980s". So basically, I have Best Buy to thank, as I probably wouldn't spend the money on a fan that won't be hung in my house permanently unless I was handed it, which in this case, I was. I don't currently have a permanent installation planned for this Original, but one day when I move out of my parents' house, I'll put it up somewhere. Pics when it arrives (don't expect pics before the 15th, though, as that's when it's due to arrive by), and here's the link to the Original on their website, just so you know I'm not making up any stories: www.bestbuy.com/site/hunter-original-52-ceiling-fan-white/5509211.p?skuId=5509211
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Post by Parkman on Dec 1, 2016 7:23:25 GMT -5
Congrats on the new fan! For some reason I pictured you as an Apple (iPhone) man.
Never knew Best Buy even sold fans!
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Post by markwelker on Dec 1, 2016 9:40:25 GMT -5
To bad it's not American made...
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 1, 2016 16:09:45 GMT -5
To bad it's not American made... This ruins it for me..
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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 2, 2016 0:23:56 GMT -5
If anyone should take one person's word for it, it HAS to be Brian Hicks. He said they were a good buy, just that the blade arms aren't as good because they're now a thinner metal and he said the finishing is done poorly on the side that's covered by the blade itself. It moves 7600 CFM on high speed, which is very good for a modern-day fan. Plus, they still make em of cast-iron construction, with wooden blades (albeit covered by a PVC veeneer so that they can be placed in damp locations), and has a return to BOTH the wires exiting externally on the fan motor, as well as the American-style 4in. shaft, so it's returning to the American style. According to Brian, the cap values were changed so the fan spins faster, and although it has Taiwanese bearings and windings, it STILL functions like a quality ceiling fan should. Keep in mind that there is really no ceiling fan made nowadays that is assembled in America entirely of American-made parts. I don't want to take it apart as to void the warranty when I get it, but I WILL post pics of the fan itself, and compare it to my 1981 and 1988 American-made Originals.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 2, 2016 20:11:49 GMT -5
Keep in mind that there is really no ceiling fan made nowadays that is assembled in America entirely of American-made parts. That is a disgrace.. Hopefully soon to change..
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Post by Cole D on Dec 3, 2016 10:17:25 GMT -5
I don't think even the Originals in the 80s were entirely American made. Some parts were foreign even then.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 3, 2016 11:50:01 GMT -5
I don't think even the Originals in the 80s were entirely American made. Some parts were foreign even then. This may very well be true,, but at least at that time the foreign parts were still made with a good quality..
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Post by Max C. on Dec 5, 2016 4:27:41 GMT -5
While the fact that it is not American-assembled proves disappointing, this is a high-quality product nevertheless (take into consideration the cast iron housing and oil bath design)! Here is a look at Brian Hicks' video review:
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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 5, 2016 23:48:09 GMT -5
Well guys, she came today, shipped directly from Hunter's shipping facility. It's from the 30th week of 2016 (July 25th-31st, 2016). Haven't done anything other than make sure everything that should be there is there, so I've only so far taken a pic of the box. Pics of the actual fan to come!
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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 7, 2016 0:54:39 GMT -5
I should ALSO note that there's a label on the top of the motor that reads '210X20J'... this means that the new Original uses a 210x20mm motor.
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Post by Noah C on Dec 7, 2016 3:58:43 GMT -5
I noticed something: Hunter revised the brackets of the original sometime between when the post-2015 original was introduced and now, because the brackets are now only slightly modified from the ones used on pre-2015 models of the original. Remember the bulkier, proportionally different brackets on the post-2015 original that Jordan and Max absolutely hated, that made the original closer to a 50" Casablanca in proportions, that looked like this: www.delmarfans.com/hunter-ceiling-fans/classic-original/23838/# ? Yeah, those are no longer shown, it seems.
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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 8, 2016 0:01:27 GMT -5
Brian says the brackets are poorly-designed still, with poor molding on the side that is hidden by the blade (facing upwards towards the ceiling). I have a feeling that those blade arms that were ugly and used when the new Originals were first introduced were only used as prototypes, and never shipped with fans, or it was CGI (computer and videogame geeks should know what CGI means)... manufacturers do that a lot when they have a 4B and a 5B fan of the same kind... they just use CGI to (poorly) remove a blade from the fan. I've never seen a picture of an installed new Original that uses the ugly brackets. BTW, it WAS always 52", which again makes me think that those brackets were CGI and never actually made it to production. I also wouldn't say they're Casablanca-style, but more new Hunter style, like Hunter uses on all of their redesigned models to replace the more traditional "generic" brackets they always used (which are MUCH better than the new ones IMO). My 23845 Original (White) has the standard brackets like Hunter shows now on their website.
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Post by fancollector12 on Dec 8, 2016 1:18:51 GMT -5
One other thing I noticed with my new Original is that Hunter appears to still use castings that bear their old 'HUNTER' logo (including on the switch housing cap and on the motor plate, which is identical to that of the Originals from the mid-1980s onwards, with the 'Building the Best Since 1886' slogan, just without the embossed/stamped date and factory codes). The only items that were included with the fan that I can see bear the new 'Hunter' "Script" logo are the box, the manuals/parts guides, and the ETL sticker on top of the motor housing. So, from a glance, you'd think that it's just an American-made mid-1990s 4-blade/5-blade "Classic" Original, that is, until you look close, and see the metal "shield" covering the top vents of the motor.
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Post by Noah C on Dec 8, 2016 3:31:43 GMT -5
Brian says the brackets are poorly-designed still, with poor molding on the side that is hidden by the blade (facing upwards towards the ceiling). I have a feeling that those blade arms that were ugly and used when the new Originals were first introduced were only used as prototypes, and never shipped with fans, or it was CGI (computer and videogame geeks should know what CGI means)... manufacturers do that a lot when they have a 4B and a 5B fan of the same kind... they just use CGI to (poorly) remove a blade from the fan. I've never seen a picture of an installed new Original that uses the ugly brackets. BTW, it WAS always 52", which again makes me think that those brackets were CGI and never actually made it to production. I also wouldn't say they're Casablanca-style, but more new Hunter style, like Hunter uses on all of their redesigned models to replace the more traditional "generic" brackets they always used (which are MUCH better than the new ones IMO). My 23845 Original (White) has the standard brackets like Hunter shows now on their website. He must've said that on an alternate forum or platform because that info wasn't in the video. Jonathan posted a pic of one hanging on a porch somewhere in one of my threads back in early 2015, I think at Texas Ceiling fans, with the bulky brackets, but that picture was removed for some odd reason. Yes, it was always 52" but I am saying that it seems as though, to retain the 52" length, the bulky brackets are stubbier than the usual brackets used, and the blades were cut an inch longer to accommodate. But this picture was of a pre-production model, as the fan had not been released. I noticed, the production brackets on the 2015 hunter original seem thinner than those of previous originals. What were the 2014 and prior brackets made of, because this could have something to do with the new brackets being stainless steel.
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