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Kichler
Mar 8, 2016 22:07:30 GMT -5
Post by Parkman on Mar 8, 2016 22:07:30 GMT -5
So I stopped at a showroom today about an hour and a half away from my home...
Never heard of it but decided to check it out. They only sold Kichler Fans. Now I know Kichler has roots in Emerson or something like that and that some of the models are expensive...
But whats the deal with them, I know Dan got a model that is like an Original knockoff and it seemed pretty neat in the video.
I know some of you guys are warming up to more modern day fans with unique designs and those who still have quality.. (Example: Fanimation!)
Just figured I'd ask I don't know much about them. Some of the models seemed like decent for today but overpriced (IDK the spinner motor specs on them) while others seemed like better than Home Depot in materials but by no means the metal and wood quality of a Panama II or something.
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Post by fancollector12 on Mar 9, 2016 0:24:06 GMT -5
Their little Terna pendant fan is neat. While there's no stack motor offering from them, they still leave a DC motor, AND they have some nice designs!
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Kichler
Mar 9, 2016 10:11:13 GMT -5
Post by andy on Mar 9, 2016 10:11:13 GMT -5
I once saw a Kichler builder fan at a Subway along the boardwalk in Hollywood, Florida. I thought it was a Regency Professional Series fan at first, until I saw "Kichler" on the switch housing.
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Kichler
Mar 9, 2016 16:00:02 GMT -5
Post by Brian L. on Mar 9, 2016 16:00:02 GMT -5
My Kichler Cobalt ceiling fan is quite nice. Kichler does have a relation with Emerson I think. At once point, Emerson sold Kichler glass for fans in the 90s.
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Post by Cole S. on Mar 9, 2016 18:28:17 GMT -5
Kichler's roots are in lighting, I think the main relation to Emerson is that they sold Kichler glass as Brian said, which was before Kichler really ventured deeply into fans. If there's other relation I'm unaware of, I don't think it has any bearing on their current product line as there's absolutely no crossover of components between the two.
Honestly, Kichler is killing it right now. There are still people who just don't like new fans and will put them down, but that's either a biased opinion or they just haven't experienced the latest product line at all. They're definitely working to excel beyond other midrange manufactures like Minka Aire and Monte Carlo. Pick up their fan catalog, and it's twice the thickness of other manufacturers. They offer SO. MANY. FANS. The only product I own from them is the Yur, and honestly I just bought it because I thought it was cute and the price was right. I held no expectations for it, but it blew me away. Even on a dinky little fan like that, the build and performance was on par with what I'd expect if Emerson or Fanimation had their name on it. From what I've seen, the direct drive motors are quiet and powerful, and I'm sure you can't go wrong with their DC selection. Can't say that I'd recommend everything based on some of the prices, but I would certainly encourage someone looking for a new fan to take a glance at Kichler, I'd buy from them again. I mean it's nothing like Emerson or Casablanca of the old days, you're typically looking at stamped metals and a lack of premium motor and control options with Kichler, but there's a tangible quality that I feel puts them a level above some of the other similar midrange showroom brands. One thing I like to point out is that they obviously care about the fan line they're putting out, otherwise they wouldn't be producing a catalog with twice as many pages as other companies. A company putting in that much effort speaks volumes, I think.
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Kichler
Mar 9, 2016 18:50:58 GMT -5
Post by Parkman on Mar 9, 2016 18:50:58 GMT -5
Cole, I like your summary there it really is thought provoking.
I purchased a Minka Aire Supra for the first time back in November. I truly was amazed by the quality of it. Not that its a Casablanca or anything but it was better than any recent Hunter and you could tel it was well thought out.
The box even came with a little tag to hang on the pull chain if it were to be a display model. It truly felt like getting a Murray Feiss of yesteryear. I know that the emotion of Minka Aire is mixed but I highly recommend the Supra if it fits your style. Plywood blades and a 188x20 motor in a 44" fan Awesome!
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Kichler
Mar 9, 2016 20:24:59 GMT -5
Post by Brian L. on Mar 9, 2016 20:24:59 GMT -5
I have a Kichler Cobalt ceiling fan (a childhood fan of mine) and it is quite decent in quality, so as Cole mentioned, they do seem to take interest int ehir fans. Also to note I've recently installed a newer model (forgot name) and the blade brackets were quite heavy on them. But I don't think I had made a thread on here about the Cobalt, but it had amazing packaging, and two options of Ring Glass (Blue and White) And Two down rod sizes. There was a tag on this fan too, Like how Parkman Mentions how his Minka Aire had a tag as if it were a display model. Sorry if the two first pictures were starchy. But to think about it, a lot of the quality seems to be gone now in packaging of fans also. This Kichler was only from 2003, and look at some of the fans now; its all just Styrofoam and a fan.
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Kichler
Mar 9, 2016 22:29:40 GMT -5
Post by Parkman on Mar 9, 2016 22:29:40 GMT -5
Pretty neat, that blue on the light is very unique and cool!
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Kichler
Mar 10, 2016 20:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by Noah C on Mar 10, 2016 20:41:52 GMT -5
Cole, I like your summary there it really is thought provoking. I purchased a Minka Aire Supra for the first time back in November. I truly was amazed by the quality of it. Not that its a Casablanca or anything but it was better than any recent Hunter and you could tel it was well thought out. The box even came with a little tag to hang on the pull chain if it were to be a display model. It truly felt like getting a Murray Feiss of yesteryear. I know that the emotion of Minka Aire is mixed but I highly recommend the Supra if it fits your style. Plywood blades and a 188x20 motor in a 44" fan Awesome! The supra has a 188×15, not 188×20. Sorry to correct you, but it's true. I have to mention, gulf coast still makes some of the best spinner motor fans, though. Link; scroll down the page for info on the fan. www.delmarfans.com/minka-aire-ceiling-fans/supra/f563-sp/
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Kichler
Mar 10, 2016 20:47:25 GMT -5
Post by Parkman on Mar 10, 2016 20:47:25 GMT -5
Same difference to me.
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Kichler
Mar 12, 2016 15:25:49 GMT -5
Post by Farah on Mar 12, 2016 15:25:49 GMT -5
Nice fan you have there. I hope that you enjoy it.
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Kichler
Mar 14, 2016 3:51:49 GMT -5
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Post by Noah C on Mar 14, 2016 3:51:49 GMT -5
It shouldn't be. A 188×20 is a hell of a lot bigger than a 188×15. A 188×15 is 2,820mm², a good size, but smaller than a 172×20. A 188×20 is 3,760mm², bigger than an XLP 2000. In other words, the 188×15 is 3/4 the size of the 188×20, which is why most 188×15 fans move about 5,600-6,000 CFMs and 188×20s are in the high 6,000s to mid 7,000s as far as CFM goes, a bit more than most stack motor fans, which are generally in the mid 6,000s. And other things should be considered too, like capacitors, motor materials, quality of copper, stator size, rotor, etc. But, this is a general parameter for motor size and, vaguely, output.
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Kichler
Mar 14, 2016 7:40:21 GMT -5
Post by Parkman on Mar 14, 2016 7:40:21 GMT -5
Yes and to me it makes no difference. I'm not that particular. I look at it as is it stack, oil bath, skeletal, or a spinner, then from there as to what size is it. If the specs say anything with the number 153 I stay away. And more than likely I'll buy a Hunter being I've owned over a hundred different models of them in which I've bought and sold many.
I keep in mind all of those quality elements into mind but more than likely I'll just buy a Panama or a Hunter as I always have. I know anything from Home Depot or Lowes has downgraded components out of Hunter so stay away from them and the older the Hunter is the better the quality it is.
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