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Post by Noah C on Mar 14, 2015 23:44:28 GMT -5
Weird fan #1: The new kichler fryst ceiling fan. It looks like a hunter original knockoff to me. Its actually a good modern day fan with a large motor (188×25) and solid performance. I actually quite like it, but for the money you spend, might as well buy a legitimate original, because the price is outrageous.
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Post by Noah C on Mar 14, 2015 23:51:25 GMT -5
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Post by JW on Mar 15, 2015 0:22:58 GMT -5
God, NO.
I'm tickled to death it has a 188x25 (didn't think Kichler made anything with a motor bigger than 153mm), but the proportions are OUTLANDISH. Maybe it'll grow on me though. And I just saw the specs on their page... 185 RPM, 12 degree pitch. Ooooh BOY that's some power lolol
My first impression is that this is this generation's Island Fans lol.
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Post by Noah C on Mar 15, 2015 0:33:04 GMT -5
God, NO. I'm tickled to death it has a 188x25 (didn't think Kichler made anything with a motor bigger than 153mm), but the proportions are OUTLANDISH. Maybe it'll grow on me though. And I just saw the specs on their page... 185 RPM, 12 degree pitch. Ooooh BOY that's some power lolol My first impression is that this is this generation's Island Fans lol. Good point. It does have outrageously outlandish proportions. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 5:09:26 GMT -5
Kichler designed this to compete with the Original.
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Post by Noah C on Mar 15, 2015 17:55:32 GMT -5
Kichler designed this to compete with the Original. I did not know that. Thanks for the info! |
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Post by Jordan U on Mar 15, 2015 21:13:40 GMT -5
Interesting..... does it come in any other finishes? I'm not big on this brushed nickel stuff, but it may be good if it came in white or bass.
The motor size sure is impressive for something of this age, but only 12* pitch at 185 revs? I figured it would be more. Does it list the CFMs?
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Post by Noah C on Mar 16, 2015 17:25:46 GMT -5
Interesting..... does it come in any other finishes? I'm not big on this brushed nickel stuff, but it may be good if it came in white or bass. The motor size sure is impressive for something of this age, but only 12* pitch at 185 revs? I figured it would be more. Does it list the CFMs? The motor is big, but not that powerful for its size. 12* pitch, 185 revs on high. Cfm rate is decent, but nothing exquisite at 5,618 on high speed. |
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Post by Jordan U on Mar 16, 2015 18:14:09 GMT -5
The motor is big, but not that powerful for its size. 12* pitch, 185 revs on high. Cfm rate is decent, but nothing exquisite at 5,618 on high speed. Given the predicating motor size specs, that CFM rating is pretty weak. You can get that out of fans with notably smaller motors. |
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Post by Noah C on Mar 16, 2015 23:46:54 GMT -5
The motor is big, but not that powerful for its size. 12* pitch, 185 revs on high. Cfm rate is decent, but nothing exquisite at 5,618 on high speed. Given the predicating motor size specs, that CFM rating is pretty weak. You can get that out of fans with notably smaller motors. Very true, Jordan. Just to display an example, the Fanimation Aire decor, which would be positioned a notch above builder grade, has the same blade pitch, 153x15 motor, and moves about 5,900 CFM on high speed; this is also a pitiful airflow rate for a fan with this size motor, especially considering other viable options with comparably-sized motors. To broadcast a few, the craftmade American tradition with 16* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,000 CFM on high; the spinner motor casablanca panama (they remodeled the stack motor version and still sell it) with 13* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,375 CFM on high; the fanimation 52" Edgewood with 14* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,057 CFM. This makes this original knockoff look pathetic! And the price you pay, may as well buy a legitimate original! That's OUTRAGEOUS! |
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Post by Noah C on Mar 16, 2015 23:51:21 GMT -5
The fan cannot compete with the original anyway, the new one with the larger blade brackets moves about 7,500 CFM, up from the 6,947 CFM of the model with the smaller blade brackets!
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Post by fan1968 on Mar 17, 2015 5:45:55 GMT -5
Interesting..... does it come in any other finishes? I'm not big on this brushed nickel stuff, but it may be good if it came in white or bass. The motor size sure is impressive for something of this age, but only 12* pitch at 185 revs? I figured it would be more. Does it list the CFMs? It comes in black which looks like brown. |
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Post by Jordan U on Mar 17, 2015 8:37:43 GMT -5
It comes in black which looks like brown. I'd probably like the brown version better, but either way I don't really like it that much anymore after learning about its specs. Very true, Jordan. Just to display an example, the Fanimation Aire decor, which would be positioned a notch above builder grade, has the same blade pitch, 153x15 motor, and moves about 5,900 CFM on high speed; this is also a pitiful airflow rate for a fan with this size motor, especially considering other viable options with comparably-sized motors. To broadcast a few, the craftmade American tradition with 16* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,000 CFM on high; the spinner motor casablanca panama (they remodeled the stack motor version and still sell it) with 13* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,375 CFM on high; the fanimation 52" Edgewood with 14* pitch, 188x20 motor, and moves 7,057 CFM. This makes this original knockoff look pathetic! And the price you pay, may as well buy a legitimate original! That's OUTRAGEOUS! That is outrageous! I don't know much about Kichler, but I'm beginning to think they're just not that great of a manufacturer. I looked on their website and found the have an industrial model. Its pathetic too! These are its specs: Motor Size: 188MM X 15MM Amps: 0.51/0.37/0.24 RPM: 205/135/79 CFM: 6512/4259/2223 Their motors may be large, but they sure are weak... |
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Post by Max C. on Mar 17, 2015 13:40:54 GMT -5
First of all, eww! The vents are terrible, the canopy is a complete mismatch to the rest of the fan and the switch housing is undersized. Secondly, I feel the main problem here is capacitors. As an example, take the Hampton Bay Caswyk. It uses a large, high quality 188X20 Air Cool motor. Yet it only spins a 160 RPM on high and blows around 6000 CFM. Not terrible for a 54" fan, however it shouldn't it spin faster? The answer is probably yes with a motor that large. Upon open opening it up for my usual routine of cleaning, I was shocked to see that it only had a 4.5 UF capacitor! For comparison, most basic 52" Hampton Bay fans with 153X18 motors use a 6UF capacitor for the high speed. So I switched it out for a 5 UF capacitor and got it to spin at roughly 190 RPM which was a notable improvement. This new Kitchler fan probably suffers from the same issue - an underrated capacitor. Therefore, it loses a lot of it's potential for power (think of a Ferrari being driven by somebody who doesn't go more than 30 miles per hour). |
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Post by Cole S. on Mar 17, 2015 14:20:58 GMT -5
I don't like this per se, but there are two notable things I do like. #1 being the wing-tip blades, I like seeing those come up on something brand new. #2 being the fact that it's blatantly an Original copy. There hasn't been an Original copy produced in a long time, I like when there are copies because it shows that the Original is something worth copying, and at these price points some people really might just go for the real thing instead. They need brushed nickel or pewter Originals available again though... They're closing out an evident customer base on that one.
The two things really wrong with this one for me are the crazy long almost TAT-like blade arms and the canopy. I agree with some of the other comments about the switch housing and vents, but those are really minor things that don't bother me nearly as much. The performance is nothing to get excited about either, but performance is an evolving characteristic in new fans, so while it's an important factor, I don't place all merit just on performance alone.
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