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Post by Jordan U on Feb 11, 2015 23:36:33 GMT -5
You make a great point Adam! I understand what you're saying. In fact, I prefer 80's fans myself. However, I look at the quality of the fan and not just the era. Therefore, if I come across a Hampton Bay from 2003 that's decently-made and performs comparably to some 80's fans, I won't simply dismiss it due to it's age. Also on the topic, the Wal-Mart fans of today will probably be considered collectables by some people in 2030... That's going to be a sad day when the stuff we have today is considered 'vintage' and 'collectable', maybe even 'quality'. I can't fathom how bad the fans of 2030 are going to be. As it is now 52" fans move 2,000 CFM, tack on 15 more years of Chinese manufacturing and profit maximization doing its thing, they're going to be move 500 CFM before you know it.
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Post by Max C. on Feb 12, 2015 0:25:59 GMT -5
Had 2 sets of blades that spin in opposite directions like some high performance propeller boats and aircraft. I guess that's why its called the Pilot The third revision of the Redington was a great fan. The Cameron was a pretty powerful model as well. I see those in restaurants and the like a lot around here. The Cameron Plus also used a 188X25 motor as far as I know... What is this Pilot model you speak of? I've never heard of it before. 162 is quite an odd size... I meant 172X18. Also, for anybody who's curious: www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Pilot-60-in-and-52-in-Brushed-Nickel-Ceiling-Fan-34313/202075536?keyword=Hampton+Bay+PilotThat's going to be a sad day when the stuff we have today is considered 'vintage' and 'collectable', maybe even 'quality'. I can't fathom how bad the fans of 2030 are going to be. As it is now 52" fans move 2,000 CFM, tack on 15 more years of Chinese manufacturing and profit maximization doing its thing, they're going to be move 500 CFM before you know it. It could go one of three ways: Scenario one (ideal) - by some miracle, fan quality improves. Although highly unlikely, this isn't an impossibility. If, let's say a fan collector were to purchase HunterBlanca, fan quality as we know it could be restored to the level it once was back in the early 80's. Scenario two (neutral, literally) - fan quality stays about the same. As unbelievable as it might seem, there are a small handful of ceiling fan manufacturers whose quality has remained consistent since the late 80's. Air Cool and Halsey are both a good illustration. For instance, a 1989 Air Cool GE-vent fan with cane blades will use roughly the same size and quality motor as, for example, a 2009 Hampton Bay Glendale. Scenario three (worst) - ceiling fans would eventually become obsolete. If this were to happen, we probably wouldn't see this in the immediate future, however that isn't to it couldn't happen. Today, more ceiling fans are being removed in renovations as opposed to installed. This wasn't the case 10 years ago. Not only are styles changing (a lot of people tent to be gravitating towards a stripped-down and highly minimalist look these days), so are concerns about efficiency. Wattage limiters are a great example of this, and so is the slow albeit steady disappearance of stack motor fans. As fellow fan collector Sam S. pointed out on DT Vintage Fans a couple years back, it might not even be profitable to produce any decent ceiling fans in the future. Therefore, manufacturers will have to reduce the quality of their fans to the point were a 52" model might indeed blow 500 CFM on high.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 18:23:02 GMT -5
Though I do like all three fans, I'd have to agree with Dan about them being mismatched. Three Casablanca Zephyrs on low ceiling adapters (LCAs) would look great there... IMO Hampton Bay / Harbor Breeze fans were junk well before then.. The last of the Hampton Bay Landmark GE vents of the mid 1990s were garbage.. Technically even the TAT versions of the late 80s were garbage and didn't last.. Only fans I can think of that were still decent in the late 1990s were some Hunter and Casablanca ceiling fans.. And those Hampton Bay metal bladed utility fans (Made by SMC, I think) of the late 90s / early 2000s were pretty decent, before they went to the overly pitch versions.. We didn't have Lows around here until the 2000s, I usually compare Home Depot and Lows brands as for being a whole, seeing how they are about the same.. I agree that there were garbage Hampton Bay fans prior to the 2000s, though I personally feel that there are some decent models you've left out. The Landmark was an economy fan, nothing more and nothing less. Therefore, it's no surprise that the quality is going to fall short of many high-end vintage fans. Same goes with the Littleton (although the 90's versions wasn't half bad from what I've heard). Then you get to the mid-range fans like the Carriage House II, Carousel/CarouselII, Huntington II/III/Colby and Quick Connect (just to name a few). These fans were a noticeable step up from the economy models, however I still tend not to take them seriously due to their weak performance. Finally there's the upper mid-range/high-end. A great illustration of the quality jump from the aforementioned cheaper Hampton Bay models is the Redington III ( not to be confused with the later Redington IV, which was a large downgrade) Have you ever dealt with a Redington II? They put the Redington III to shame because they have plywood blades and no Quick Connect Blades Features. My aunt has a Littleton in her Garage and it runs for probably 5 years straight at a time. It got installed in 1998 or 1999. It is completely silent other than a barely noticeable hum on low. I think its hit or miss depending on the manufacturer and then the specifics of the fan like you are saying Max, different levels!.
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 12, 2015 19:18:09 GMT -5
My aunt has a Littleton in her Garage and it runs for probably 5 years straight at a time. It got installed in 1998 or 1999. It is completely silent other than a barely noticeable hum on low. The Littleton is an interesting one, from what I understand the ones of the 90s were actually pretty decent.
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Post by Farah on Feb 12, 2015 20:47:00 GMT -5
Very nice fans! I hope that your friend will enjoy them.
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