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Post by perfectjazz78 on Feb 8, 2015 20:22:12 GMT -5
A friend of mine needed new fans to replace late 1990s Harbor Breeze junk in her sunroom. I sold and installed three ceiling fans from my collection for her, all with solid wood blades. Here are some pictures: Wood Housing Panasonic (I put this in last year when the first Harbor Breeze quit)  judyfans 010 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 009 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr Polished Brass skeletal motor Panasonic. This moves very fast and moves some serious air  judyfans 006 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 005 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 004 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr Antique Brass Murray Feiss from 1984  judyfans 003 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 002 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 001 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 008 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr  judyfans 007 by perfectjazz78, on Flickr |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2015 22:00:12 GMT -5
While I love the choices, it would bother me that the fans dont match. Especially given that the finishes and lights are different.
Why are the wires exposed on the Panasonics?
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 9, 2015 9:47:20 GMT -5
The tri-install in my opinion should be all the same fans, but it's still cool regardless. Those are some nice fans there.
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Post by perfectjazz78 on Feb 9, 2015 9:52:56 GMT -5
No canopy, Wires won't fit into junction box due to low profile mounting system. I am going to put together a canopy out of a junk fan side wall.
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Post by fan1968 on Feb 9, 2015 16:55:34 GMT -5
Back in the late 1990s you could get a decent quality fan from Harbor Breeze fan. But that was when fan quality was going down so good choice replacing them
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Post by Adam D. on Feb 9, 2015 17:41:34 GMT -5
Back in the late 1990s you could get a decent quality fan from Harbor Breeze fan. But that was when fan quality was going down so good choice replacing them I thought the quality was already gone.. Long gone by then.. |
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 9, 2015 22:14:11 GMT -5
Back in the late 1990s you could get a decent quality fan from Harbor Breeze fan. But that was when fan quality was going down so good choice replacing them I thought the quality was already gone.. Long gone by then.. I could see both opinions depending on where you look at it from. Relative to Harbor Breeze of today, the stuff they put out in the 90s wasn't that bad. Relative to nice 70s spinner, they're cheesy. |
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Post by Adam D. on Feb 9, 2015 22:26:52 GMT -5
IMO Hampton Bay / Harbor Breeze fans were junk well before then.. The last of the Hampton Bay Landmark GE vents of the mid 1990s were garbage.. Technically even the TAT versions of the late 80s were garbage and didn't last.. Only fans I can think of that were still decent in the late 1990s were some Hunter and Casablanca ceiling fans.. And those Hampton Bay metal bladed utility fans (Made by SMC, I think) of the late 90s / early 2000s were pretty decent, before they went to the overly pitch versions.. We didn't have Lows around here until the 2000s, I usually compare Home Depot and Lows brands as for being a whole, seeing how they are about the same..
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Post by Max C. on Feb 11, 2015 17:59:48 GMT -5
Though I do like all three fans, I'd have to agree with Dan about them being mismatched. Three Casablanca Zephyrs on low ceiling adapters (LCAs) would look great there... IMO Hampton Bay / Harbor Breeze fans were junk well before then.. The last of the Hampton Bay Landmark GE vents of the mid 1990s were garbage.. Technically even the TAT versions of the late 80s were garbage and didn't last.. Only fans I can think of that were still decent in the late 1990s were some Hunter and Casablanca ceiling fans.. And those Hampton Bay metal bladed utility fans (Made by SMC, I think) of the late 90s / early 2000s were pretty decent, before they went to the overly pitch versions.. We didn't have Lows around here until the 2000s, I usually compare Home Depot and Lows brands as for being a whole, seeing how they are about the same.. I agree that there were garbage Hampton Bay fans prior to the 2000s, though I personally feel that there are some decent models you've left out. The Landmark was an economy fan, nothing more and nothing less. Therefore, it's no surprise that the quality is going to fall short of many high-end vintage fans. Same goes with the Littleton (although the 90's versions wasn't half bad from what I've heard). Then you get to the mid-range fans like the Carriage House II, Carousel/CarouselII, Huntington II/III/Colby and Quick Connect (just to name a few). These fans were a noticeable step up from the economy models, however I still tend not to take them seriously due to their weak performance. Finally there's the upper mid-range/high-end. A great illustration of the quality jump from the aforementioned cheaper Hampton Bay models is the Redington III ( not to be confused with the later Redington IV, which was a large downgrade) which used a 188X25 motor and blew around 7000 CFM. That's more than a later XLP Casablanca Panama! A more current example would be the Pilot (using what I believe to be a 172X18 for the lower set of blades, and a 188X20 for the upper set). Since Lowes only came to Canada in around 2008, I have not had the opportunity to work with a large number of their ceiling fans (unlike with Home Depot's Hampton Bay models). The most memorable Harbor Breeze fan I can recall at the moment was an earlier Endenton (which was actually purchased in the US, and brought to Canada). In essence, it was a re-branded Hunter that used some Harbor Breeze-specific parts. Being from around 2003, the Hunter motor in itself pretty much guaranteed above average performance. Sure enough, the fan was whisper quiet and blew air like you wouldn't believe. Another Harbor Breeze fan that comes to mind is a new in box Triton (this was another case of a fan being transported from the US) that I installed back in 2012. That was a piece of garbage. The paint looked liked it had been brushed on by an eight-year-old, the remote control was defective from factory, and the blade quality was awful. I can't remember the motor size, nor do I care to. Bottom-line: with store-brands like Hampton Bay and Harbor Breeze, there are different "levels" of fans. Which "level" a specific model is makes a huge difference in terms of quality. |
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 11, 2015 18:06:23 GMT -5
A great illustration of the quality jump from the aforementioned cheaper Hampton Bay models is the Redington III ( not to be confused with the later Redington IV, which was a large downgrade) which used a 188X25 motor and blew around 7000 CFM. That's more than a later XLP Casablanca Panama! A more current example would be the Pilot (using what I believe to be a 162X18 for the lower set of blades, and a 188X20 for the upper set). The third revision of the Redington was a great fan. The Cameron was a pretty powerful model as well. I see those in restaurants and the like a lot around here. What is this Pilot model you speak of? I've never heard of it before. 162 is quite an odd size... |
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Post by John Shelley on Feb 11, 2015 18:52:19 GMT -5
A great illustration of the quality jump from the aforementioned cheaper Hampton Bay models is the Redington III ( not to be confused with the later Redington IV, which was a large downgrade) which used a 188X25 motor and blew around 7000 CFM. That's more than a later XLP Casablanca Panama! A more current example would be the Pilot (using what I believe to be a 162X18 for the lower set of blades, and a 188X20 for the upper set). The third revision of the Redington was a great fan. The Cameron was a pretty powerful model as well. I see those in restaurants and the like a lot around here. What is this Pilot model you speak of? I've never heard of it before. 162 is quite an odd size... Had 2 sets of blades that spin in opposite directions like some high performance propeller boats and aircraft. |
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Post by Adam D. on Feb 11, 2015 18:54:23 GMT -5
I think it depends on the person and there opinion also.. From someone like me who collects fans from the late 70s, early 80s era.. I think fans that were made after mid-late 80s were garbage with only a handful of exceptions here and there, like the Hunter Passport, Original etc... And Casablanca who kept the same styles and quality from the 70s and 80s.. Though I do see these Hunters and Casablancas periodically, I don't ever get them.. Someone who collects genuine antiques will consider ceiling fans that I like junk.. That's why I mentioned in my opinion.. There will soon be a generation of people who collect ceiling fans made right now.. There is already a generation of people who collect ceiling fans from the early 2000s, around the time this website opened..
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 11, 2015 19:20:52 GMT -5
The third revision of the Redington was a great fan. The Cameron was a pretty powerful model as well. I see those in restaurants and the like a lot around here. What is this Pilot model you speak of? I've never heard of it before. 162 is quite an odd size... Had 2 sets of blades that spin in opposite directions like some high performance propeller boats and aircraft. Okay, I know what one you're talking about now. I'm surprised that moves good air, I figured it would be more for show than actual performance. I think it depends on the person and there opinion also.. From someone like me who collects fans from the late 70s, early 80s era.. I think fans that were made after mid-late 80s were garbage with only a handful of exceptions here and there, like the Hunter Passport, Original etc... And Casablanca who kept the same styles and quality from the 70s and 80s.. Though I do see these Hunters and Casablancas periodically, I don't ever get them.. Someone who collects genuine antiques will consider ceiling fans that I like junk.. That's why I mentioned in my opinion.. There will soon be a generation of people who collect ceiling fans made right now.. There is already a generation of people who collect ceiling fans from the early 2000s, around the time this website opened.. This is a great point, I agree completely. |
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Post by becausecanadia on Feb 11, 2015 19:24:47 GMT -5
Wut? wood housing Panasonic? I WANT.
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Post by Max C. on Feb 11, 2015 21:25:57 GMT -5
I think it depends on the person and there opinion also.. From someone like me who collects fans from the late 70s, early 80s era.. I think fans that were made after mid-late 80s were garbage with only a handful of exceptions here and there, like the Hunter Passport, Original etc... And Casablanca who kept the same styles and quality from the 70s and 80s.. Though I do see these Hunters and Casablancas periodically, I don't ever get them.. Someone who collects genuine antiques will consider ceiling fans that I like junk.. That's why I mentioned in my opinion.. There will soon be a generation of people who collect ceiling fans made right now.. There is already a generation of people who collect ceiling fans from the early 2000s, around the time this website opened.. You make a great point Adam! I understand what you're saying. In fact, I prefer 80's fans myself. However, I look at the quality of the fan and not just the era. Therefore, if I come across a Hampton Bay from 2003 that's decently-made and performs comparably to some 80's fans, I won't simply dismiss it due to it's age. Also on the topic, the Wal-Mart fans of today will probably be considered collectables by some people in 2030... |
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