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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 22, 2011 21:47:04 GMT -5
I finally got my first four curved metal bladed fan! Not a 4 Seasons though. Even more uncommon! I went to get this old Evergo spinner last weekend. I've been watching it on Kijiji since August but the price was too high. Especially for a used fan. I've been able to get it for a better price. Still too high but much better compare to the initial price. It was worth it because it's a very rare fan. Believe it or not but it also came I with it's original 5-speed wall control. I remember seeing some large brown four metal curved bladed spinners when I was a child. They were usually installed in small shops. I'm starting to think that 4 Seasons have never made their four curved metal bladed commercial fan in brown. Probably only in ivory and pure white. All the brown ones I've seen might have been this model. It has a nut which I did not expect because on the AD it was not showing the bottom of the fan. But it's even better, I love nuts on old spinners. I also love the fact that it comes with a short downrod. The blades are naturally bent a little upwards which gives it even more character. It weights 21lbs without the blades and it's extremely powerful! A real beast!     The sticker on the lower canopy: The writing in the yellow part it's just the warning in bilingual about the blades that must be at a min distance of the ground.  It's not dated.    What's pretty interesting about the control is that it came with an electrical box still attached to it with a biex cable to get the power and another white wire to go to the fan. I was told it was installed in a wood workshop 20' above the ground. It's very cool that it came with the original 5-speed wall control but unfortunately this control makes the fan noisy. Not as much as a variable speed controller though. Also all the speeds are too fast. The lowest setting was around 90RPM with this control. After I tried it with my Westinghouse 4-speed slider and it was much quieter. The hum was practically all gone and the speeds were a lot slower. About 30RPM on the lowest setting! WOW!  What's interesting is that unlike the speeds I got on the Canarm 56'', on this one the three first speeds are all pretty slow. So it makes a huge difference between the second highest and the full speed. About: 30/90/120-and the full speed I still cannot tell the RPM but it's beyond 300! Pretty much like the big Canarm. It makes a lot of air noise on higher speeds like most of metal blades fans but it's not as helicopterish as it is with a three blade model. The bearings are totally silent and it has a good spin down time. Unfortunately it's very scratched up. Since it works pretty well I might repaint it. Definitely in the same glossy dark chocolate color. Basically the same exact color I used on the big Canarm. The problem with it is that the downrod cannot be taken off the shaft where the downrod meets the lower canopy. I'm not able to unscrew the two screws on the sides.  (see 4th pic) Also a part of the threaded downrod is showing which annoys me but it seems secure. I'm not able to take it off or unscrew it either. It did not came with the rubber wheel in the mounting but I made one. ;D |
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Post by Cole S. on Nov 22, 2011 21:57:51 GMT -5
Coolio! I love that it has the nut as well, that totally makes it like 5 times cooler. Totally weird fan, Evergo didn't seem to be big on the four-metal-blade concept at all, but they're really cool.
Ah! And we finally see the elusive weird control up close. It is basically just like the others as you thought, except a complete rectangle without the offset parts with the tiny mounting screws on the top and bottom.
Great job with this one, Jean, you've got a nice rare beauty.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 22, 2011 22:53:50 GMT -5
Coolio! I love that it has the nut as well, that totally makes it like 5 times cooler. Totally weird fan, Evergo didn't seem to be big on the four-metal-blade concept at all, but they're really cool. Ah! And we finally see the elusive weird control up close. It is basically just like the others as you thought, except a complete rectangle without the offset parts with the tiny mounting screws on the top and bottom. Great job with this one, Jean, you've got a nice rare beauty. The control does have vents on the top and bottom. The sides are plain as you can see. Thanks! I think I deserved it. I haven't bought anything since early July. I was still adding informations about it as you post this. So you have never seen this particular model in the Unites States? If not, I'm starting to think that it might have been made especially for the Canadian market as it have a bilingual sticker on it and I knew that they were Evergos outside of the States. They are some in Australia too. Does your Evergo 5-speed controls makes fans noisier than a quiet slider? Also in your videos they all seems to have pretty fast speeds. |
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Post by Cole S. on Nov 22, 2011 23:21:37 GMT -5
Well that makes it even weirder, none of the usual ones have vents. I do remember visible vents in the listing pictures now that you say that though. Very odd.
I've never seen a model like this in the US, wouldn't surprise me if it was a Canadian thing because the four blade industrial seems way more common up there.
I haven't noticed much noise with the choke controls, maybe a little more hum, but I agree they are WAY too fast on all the lower speeds. I hate that, makes it very impractical for something like a bedroom.
So you can't get the screws loose near the lower canopy? Typically they'd come out pretty easily, but I suppose they do get stuck occasionally.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 22, 2011 23:47:26 GMT -5
Well that makes it even weirder, none of the usual ones have vents. I do remember visible vents in the listing pictures now that you say that though. Very odd. I've never seen a model like this in the US, wouldn't surprise me if it was a Canadian thing because the four blade industrial seems way more common up there. I haven't noticed much noise with the choke controls, maybe a little more hum, but I agree they are WAY too fast on all the lower speeds. I hate that, makes it very impractical for something like a bedroom. So you can't get the screws loose near the lower canopy? Typically they'd come out pretty easily, but I suppose they do get stuck occasionally. Do you know were is Evergo from? They are made in Hong Kong but are they based in Hong Kong or United States? I heard that thy were from Florida, USA. Adam might know this. Well with this fan this a significant difference of noise from the motor with the Evergo control vs a contemporary slider. Yes exactly. There are two screws on the part that the downrod meets the top of the lower canopy. One can be removed but NOT the other one. I even tried WD-40 on it and it does not turn at all. Also it seems mysterious how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. It seems to use a different system. It might explain why a part of the threaded downrod is showing. Usually the threaded part is not supposed to show. At first I thought it was dangerous but it's seems fine. Still I would like to be able to take it apart. Not only because I would like it repaint it and it's easier with all the pieces detached but also because I would like to know how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. |
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 22, 2011 23:50:15 GMT -5
Rare indeed, I've never seen this model before.. It's like the Chadwick but with mental blades..
There's no sign Evergo was ever in Canada. My guess would be that when Evergo was in America they were probably distributing to Canada as well, which may explain the bilingual label... Evergo is based in Hong Kong, and were always in Hong Kong.. It's just way back when, the early days Evergo had corporate offices located in the United States which explains why a lot of fans didn't have any other labels..
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Post by Cole S. on Nov 23, 2011 0:00:17 GMT -5
Well with this fan this a significant difference of noise from the motor with the Evergo control vs a contemporary slider. Yes exactly. There are two screws on the part that the downrod meets the top of the lower canopy. One can be removed but NOT the other one. I even tried WD-40 on it and it does not turn at all. Also it seems mysterious how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. It seems to use a different system. It might explain why a part of the threaded downrod is showing. Usually the threaded part is not supposed to show. At first I thought it was dangerous but it's seems fine. Still I would like to be able to take it apart. Not only because I would like it repaint it and it's easier with all the pieces detached but also because I would like to know how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. That may be part of the difference for me, I've never switched from transformer to capacitor based control in the same testing period to check noise difference. Yeah, I think I've had one fan with that stubborn screw, mine eventually broke loose. It's not the usual mounting system, the downrod screws into the bracket and the lower canopy sits around the bracket. This system is typical with Evergo/Union based fans. Sometimes the downrods screw in all the way, and other times not. In your case, I think the screws near the lower canopy might be through the holes in the downrod, thus it's not screwed down as far as it could be yet it's still very secure. If you get it apart you'll see what I mean by that, there are holes drilled in the downrod like at the top that I think the screws may be driven through instead of actually locking on the downrod. See, with Evergo spinners it's a lose-lose situation, you either have the threads of the downrod showing with the screws through the holes and the lower canopy screwed tight, or you screw the downrod in all the way, and the screws bumping into the downrod are usually too long to tighten the lower canopy, and then it vibrates because it's not screwed tight and just kinda "sits" on the screws. Some fans had one long and one short screw, so one locked the downrod and the other locked the canopy, you could swap one screw if they are both long when/if you get it apart. |
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 23, 2011 0:04:17 GMT -5
Union and Evergo factories are Based overseas.. Fans were made in Hong Kong.. Union/Evergo when in America, they were only headquarters..
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Post by Rick M. on Nov 23, 2011 0:07:43 GMT -5
VERY cool fan; haven't really seen anything exactly like it before...  |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 23, 2011 0:56:32 GMT -5
Well if Evergo was based in Hong Kong, it's totally normal that they sent fans to a lot more than just the USA. Like I wrote to Cole they have them in Australia too.
Most of Hong Kong based ceiling fans companies are International.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 23, 2011 1:22:52 GMT -5
Yes, But I was talking specifically America and Canada... When Factories in Hong Kong deal international "Directly" They also have locations in the countries they distribute too directly. Evergo also has locations in Australia and other countries too..
When Evergo did business with Leslie Locke, Montgomery Ward, Chadwick-Miller and the rest of them, you noticed their label was on the speed regulator and even tagged on the motor.. It's unlikely for Evergo ceiling fans to not have the domestic label on it, if they were going through another domestic manufacturer.. Seeing how your fan has no other labels on it, it leads me to think either there was a location in Canada at one time, or they were dealing with Evergo America.. There are other companies in America that import from china and sell to both America and (I Think) Canada..
Other factories like Golden Fan Electric are a bit more tricky when Identifying the domestic company due to the fact the domestic info was only listed on the warranty card, paperwork or box..
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 23, 2011 1:51:58 GMT -5
Well with this fan this a significant difference of noise from the motor with the Evergo control vs a contemporary slider. Yes exactly. There are two screws on the part that the downrod meets the top of the lower canopy. One can be removed but NOT the other one. I even tried WD-40 on it and it does not turn at all. Also it seems mysterious how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. It seems to use a different system. It might explain why a part of the threaded downrod is showing. Usually the threaded part is not supposed to show. At first I thought it was dangerous but it's seems fine. Still I would like to be able to take it apart. Not only because I would like it repaint it and it's easier with all the pieces detached but also because I would like to know how the downrod attaches to the rest of the fan. That may be part of the difference for me, I've never switched from transformer to capacitor based control in the same testing period to check noise difference. Yeah, I think I've had one fan with that stubborn screw, mine eventually broke loose. It's not the usual mounting system, the downrod screws into the bracket and the lower canopy sits around the bracket. This system is typical with Evergo/Union based fans. Sometimes the downrods screw in all the way, and other times not. In your case, I think the screws near the lower canopy might be through the holes in the downrod, thus it's not screwed down as far as it could be yet it's still very secure. If you get it apart you'll see what I mean by that, there are holes drilled in the downrod like at the top that I think the screws may be driven through instead of actually locking on the downrod. See, with Evergo spinners it's a lose-lose situation, you either have the threads of the downrod showing with the screws through the holes and the lower canopy screwed tight, or you screw the downrod in all the way, and the screws bumping into the downrod are usually too long to tighten the lower canopy, and then it vibrates because it's not screwed tight and just kinda "sits" on the screws. Some fans had one long and one short screw, so one locked the downrod and the other locked the canopy, you could swap one screw if they are both long when/if you get it apart. Yeah what you describe is what I thought it was: that one screw that in not removable must be the one that goes in the hole of the downrod and locks the fan on the downrod. Still I find that one small screw for such an heavy and powerful fan is not very safe. When you say the bracket you mean the piece of iron inside of the lower canopy around the capacitor? Ouff! If that one screw brakes loose then it will be dangerous for real. It will not be able to hold the fan anymore. Well thanks for the infos. I feel safer with this fan now that I know it's normal that a part of the threaded downrod is showing and that you explained me how it's made. I was a little afraid that it would twist off of the downrod if I let it run on high for a longer period of time because by hand I can turn part of the fan from the downrod. Don't worry it blocks, I cannot unscrews it. It can be just turn a little. The holes in the downrod must be too big for the screw so there must be some empty space. |
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 23, 2011 2:20:01 GMT -5
More info I listed above the last post... One thing about imported ceiling fans, is that something will always come up, especially when something new in box appears, and it will solve some mysteries..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2011 2:42:18 GMT -5
ONE OF THE COOLEST FANS IVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME.
Liquid Wrench will get the screw loose, but be VERY CAREFUL not to get it on anything electrical.
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Post by Tais on Nov 23, 2011 4:54:24 GMT -5
WHOA!!! that's one super amazing fan!!! never seen a 4-bladed curvy spinner!!
cool you made a rubber wheel for the fan.. i wonder how does it look like, i usually use the spares i find in abandoned houses
i wanna see it operate at full speed
it's interesting the ampere value was mentioned, at least i came to know that evergo and union fans are roughly between 100 and 110 Watt
as for the screws, try using a clipping pucker (curved alligator mouth tool) to make the downrod screw movable in a way that it will hit the screw if moved either direction, set it between the screws abd try using either a big screwdriver or a clipping pucker to unscrew it... i do hate those screws when it comes to bringing them out
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What's interesting is that unlike the speeds I got on the Canarm 56'', on this one the three first speeds are all pretty slow. So it makes a huge difference between the second highest and the full speed. About: 30/90/120-and the full speed I still cannot tell the RPM but it's beyond 300! Pretty much like the big Canarm.
(see 4th pic) Also a part of the threaded downrod is showing which annoys me but it seems secure. I'm not able to take it off or unscrew it either.
