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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 25, 2023 20:09:59 GMT -5
Here's a copy of a Matsushita ceiling fan I acquired NIB a few months ago. These style of fans exists under so many labels. They are many copies of Matsushita style ceiling fans out there. One thing I like a lot about this specific one is that it has distinctive blade arms with rivets rather than having the blades being made of a single piece of metal like the current KDK and Panasonic ceiling fans have along with many other copies of these. This particular one seems to be copying a KDK X60XS or a KDK A56XK from the late 2000's to early 2010's. KDK and Panasonic don't seem to offer a model equivalent this this anymore. It's pretty well replicated all the way down to the safety cable linking the motor to the extension pole to prevent the motor from falling from the pole and the distinctive Matsushita style J-hook mounting. The general construction could use some improvement. The plastic shell covering the actual motor is a little crooked on top of it and I had to add tape where the pole meets the top of the motor otherwise it fitted loosely and caused the fan to wobble and make clicking noises. Now with the added tape it's fine. It's super powerful. It surpasses 300 RPMS on high but contrary to a lot of recent Indian fans it has a pretty nice slow low of only about 35 RPMS!    |
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Post by becausecanadia on Oct 27, 2023 20:28:23 GMT -5
Do you use a step-up transformer to run these foreign market fans or something?
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Post by Jonathan A. on Oct 28, 2023 9:51:01 GMT -5
Do you use a step-up transformer to run these foreign market fans or something? Wouldn’t it be better to look carefully before asking question? Sticker says 110 volt. |
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Post by becausecanadia on Oct 28, 2023 21:52:10 GMT -5
Do you use a step-up transformer to run these foreign market fans or something? Wouldn’t it be better to look carefully before asking question? Sticker says 110 volt. No I can't read. |
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Post by Jonathan A. on Oct 29, 2023 9:28:45 GMT -5
Wouldn’t it be better to look carefully before asking question? Sticker says 110 volt. No I can't read. I can clearly read "110v-60hz". Maybe picture is a little blurry, but 3:10 in this video is very clear. |
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Post by Tais on Oct 29, 2023 13:58:47 GMT -5
Nice fan!
These have a 14 pole stators most likely and would be insanely fast with 60hz!
I read roshan as if its an indian word for some reason
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Post by Jonathan A. on Oct 29, 2023 20:10:03 GMT -5
Nice fan! These have a 14 pole stators most likely and would be insanely fast with 60hz! I read roshan as if its an indian word for some reason My Hunter Highbury has a 14 pole motor, and is underpowered. |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 29, 2023 23:40:07 GMT -5
Do you use a step-up transformer to run these foreign market fans or something? Foreign market? Despite the indian sounding name like Tais noted, it's not an indian product or anything 230 volts. Actual Matsushita ceiling fans and their numerous copies exists in various voltages. This one has a motor rated for 110 volts and is made in China like most of ceiling fans nowdays. Initially I thought I would have had to use an autotransformer to lower down a little bit the voltage to 105-110 volts but most of 110 volts appliances work perfectly fine on 120. The difference is not much. Although I never tried it myself apparently even 100 volts fans can be used safely on 120 volts. For ceiling fans rated at 230 volts 50 Hz, I only use a step up transformer for the highest speed. Other speeds work perfectly fine on 120 volts 60 Hz. That only applies to ceiling fans though. Portable fans react quite differently to different voltages. |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 30, 2023 1:59:25 GMT -5
Nice fan! These have a 14 pole stators most likely and would be insanely fast with 60hz! I read roshan as if its an indian word for some reason It is indeed super fast as you can see in the video but I thought less poles meant a weaker motor. I noticed a lot of recent indian ceiing fans have 14 poles motors. Most of celing fans seem to have a 16 pole motors, sometime even 18. Yes the brand does sound like an indian word but it's not an indian company and clearly not a product from India. You are familiar with these fans? Similar ones seems common in Saudi Arabia. |
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Post by Tais on Oct 30, 2023 4:35:47 GMT -5
Nice fan! These have a 14 pole stators most likely and would be insanely fast with 60hz! I read roshan as if its an indian word for some reason It is indeed super fast as you can see in the video but I thought less poles meant a weaker motor. I noticed a lot of recent indian ceiing fans have 14 poles motors. Most of celing fans seem to have a 16 pole motors, sometime even 18. Yes the brand does sound like an indian word but it's not an indian company and clearly not a product from India. You are familiar with these fans? Similar ones seems common in Saudi Arabia. clones like this are very common here, i did manage to get some of them but never featured them yet! less poles is faster and weaker at the same time, normally 16 or 18 poles is good for a 56" fan! from the brands ive seen, not all i remember, there are many more: DEA, konnice, speedo, sayonara, novex, veto, selex, hayashi (the best among them), airex indian variants with cast aluminum motors: veto, RR, evertemp few of them, like konnice claims its an original product and warns against any duplication lol |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 5, 2023 6:03:56 GMT -5
It is indeed super fast as you can see in the video but I thought less poles meant a weaker motor. I noticed a lot of recent indian ceiing fans have 14 poles motors. Most of celing fans seem to have a 16 pole motors, sometime even 18. Yes the brand does sound like an indian word but it's not an indian company and clearly not a product from India. You are familiar with these fans? Similar ones seems common in Saudi Arabia. clones like this are very common here, i did manage to get some of them but never featured them yet! less poles is faster and weaker at the same time, normally 16 or 18 poles is good for a 56" fan! from the brands ive seen, not all i remember, there are many more: DEA, konnice, speedo, sayonara, novex, veto, selex, hayashi (the best among them), airex indian variants with cast aluminum motors: veto, RR, evertemp few of them, like konnice claims its an original product and warns against any duplication lol Do you see more of them with a blade design made of a single piece of metal or with an actual blade arm like this one above? I don't remember seeing ceiling fans of this style by Indian companies. |
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Post by Tais on Nov 6, 2023 1:15:43 GMT -5
clones like this are very common here, i did manage to get some of them but never featured them yet! less poles is faster and weaker at the same time, normally 16 or 18 poles is good for a 56" fan! from the brands ive seen, not all i remember, there are many more: DEA, konnice, speedo, sayonara, novex, veto, selex, hayashi (the best among them), airex indian variants with cast aluminum motors: veto, RR, evertemp few of them, like konnice claims its an original product and warns against any duplication lol Do you see more of them with a blade design made of a single piece of metal or with an actual blade arm like this one above? I don't remember seeing ceiling fans of this style by Indian companies. single piece blade design i only see with panasonic and KDK, as of the clones, they all come with blade arms like the one above i featured 2 of the indian clones on my youtube channel, one is RR and the other one veto, canopies and blades of those featured arent original |
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 6, 2023 6:16:30 GMT -5
Do you see more of them with a blade design made of a single piece of metal or with an actual blade arm like this one above? I don't remember seeing ceiling fans of this style by Indian companies. single piece blade design i only see with panasonic and KDK, as of the clones, they all come with blade arms like the one above i featured 2 of the indian clones on my youtube channel, one is RR and the other one veto, canopies and blades of those featured arent original Yes I believe all KDK and Panasonic have been using blades made of a single piece since about 2009 or so. Many of the copies seems to have a single piece blade design too like the Konnice you mentionned. konniceelectric.com/en/product/ceiling-fan-rheeb/I checked your RR and Veto fans and they are quite different from Matsushita style ceiling fans. We can easily see that they are regular indian fans. It doesn't seem the motors even have a plastic shell covering a skeletal motor. |
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Post by Tais on Nov 6, 2023 16:39:51 GMT -5
The veto and RR have cast aluminum motors.. if i would say what kind of a motor it is, i would say its a child of a kdk father and usha mother lol
Both veto and RR had generic spare indian canopies i got from amazon india, their original canopies, both were similar to low end usha canopies (atom, atom ex, etc..) and blades were 2 spare sets from a fan i dont remember what fan its from, but in the usha shape category.. their original blades ive seen in one mosque, its wider and has some dents, almost as wide as kdk blades, but with its weight and the fan's 14 pole small stator, it spins quite slow with original blades
Veto, unlike other indian brands had both cast aluminum motor and plastic covering skeletal motors similar to kdk
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