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Post by Noah C on May 29, 2017 3:54:15 GMT -5
If you're looking to spend the extra $20 the Hunter Westminster is pretty good too. Are you talking about the older Westminster? That one was decent overall and still had respectable quality and performance. As for the newer/current one that's basically a Waldon/Sontera/Astoria with a different light kit? Sorry to break it to you, but that one (and the aforementioned others) is a POS. The build quality is cheap all around (the metal is thin and chintzy), the blades are MDF, the motor is puny (172×12mm), and performance is mediocre at best.
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Post by Parkman on May 29, 2017 9:01:58 GMT -5
I had an original Westminster, and it was terrible as for airflow. Although it was only 100 dollars but it was nothing great just better then a Hampton bay or builder fan. the new Westminster is even worse and they downsized the motor to a 153 size motor.
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Post by Noah C on May 29, 2017 14:39:48 GMT -5
I had an original Westminster, and it was terrible as for airflow. Although it was only 100 dollars but it was nothing great just better then a Hampton bay or builder fan. the new Westminster is even worse and they downsized the motor to a 153 size motor. The current Westminster actually has their 172×12mm "Whisperwind" motor, which is even worse than something like a 153×15mm motor, because the 172×12mm motor is smaller and a little weaker than any 153mm motor with more than 13mm stack height. Actually, the size of the 172×12mm motor is 2,064mm²; compare that to a 153×15mm (2,295mm²) or a 153×14mm (2,142mm²). And the original Westminster had a 172×15mm motor (2,580mm²), so they did indeed downsize it. It would've been better if they had downsized to a 153×15 than the puny 172×12 they have in there. Another example would be the 188×15mm motor we see in many mid-range "designer's choice"/premium value fans, like the Supra for instance, or Emerson's Designer. Compare that to the 172×20mm that Casa uses in over half of the fans in their lineup. That 172×20mm motor is actually a lot bigger, and therefore a bit more powerful than the 188×15 in total size; the 188×15mm motor is 2,820mm² in total size, whereas the 172×20mm motor is 3,440mm² in total size. You see what I'm saying?
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Post by Parkman on May 29, 2017 14:44:19 GMT -5
I've seen the current ones with 153x15 motors in them taken apart, it must depend on the year of manufacture.
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Post by Noah C on May 29, 2017 14:55:45 GMT -5
I've seen the current ones with 153x15 motors in them taken apart, it must depend on the year of manufacture. If so, that's better than the 172×12mm motors they're currently shipping with, and I explained why above.
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Post by MattS on May 29, 2017 20:57:27 GMT -5
I decided I'm going to look for a fan I like and am going to take with me. In not going to graduate college until 2020, and it will likely be a few years after that that they move. When that time comes, I could just buy any piece of crap and put it in there just to please perspective buyers.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 29, 2017 22:57:18 GMT -5
Although the prices for Canarm CP are right around 100$ or slightly more in home centers, some specific places can have them for a lot less. I bought my Canarm CP48 in 2012 for only 30$. That was a really really good deal and later in 2015 my brown CP56 for 50$. They are very good fans that can be found for around 100$, slightly more or less depending on where it's bought. Note: The prices mentionned are in CAD. They are solid fans. However, "industrial fans" or fans with blades of metal must be mounted so that its blades are at least 10 feet from the floor, so not fit for a bedroom... That's what they say in the instructions because they assume that you will forget the fan is there and raise your arms or objects under the fan but metal or not nothing should be raised below or near a spinning fan. I had various all metal fans in my bedroom without any problems and I have seen it done in various places including hotel rooms. Just make sure the pole is short enough but this applies to fans with none metal blades too. If the ceiling is lower than 2,3 m, the only other option is a hugger. Under 100$ you can't get much that will be as good quality as all metal fans these days plus some models tend to have conserved a nice vintage look to them like Canarm CP or Sunwindies for example.
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Post by Noah C on May 29, 2017 23:43:05 GMT -5
I decided I'm going to look for a fan I like and am going to take with me. In not going to graduate college until 2020, and it will likely be a few years after that that they move. When that time comes, I could just buy any piece of crap and put it in there just to please perspective buyers. Paramount XP all day in that case; it is hands down the best you can buy for its price as of today. They are built exceedingly well, perform like anything you can buy with a K55-type motor for twice the price, and because Hunter's sitting on TONS of stock, they are damned cheap. Link: www.hansenwholesale.com/hunter-paramount-xp
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Post by colts18to88 on May 30, 2017 13:27:57 GMT -5
I put a Hunter Waldon and Hunter Westminster in my old house when I took my NuTone Hacienda and NuTone Decorator out to put in my new house. They really aren't that bad of fans and the light kits on them look great. Sure, they aren't near as cool or powerful as a classic vintage fan, but in the abstract they will please 99% of people. The cherry blades and gorgeous frosted lights make them a nice looking ceiling fixture to most people.
I got some Hunter's from Menards for the house I moved into. They're a step up from the Lowe's ones. Lowe's are better than Home Depot though.
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I'm always amazed at how balanced and quiet Hunter fans are.
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