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Post by Cole D on Oct 1, 2016 9:12:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 1, 2016 9:32:23 GMT -5
Those are neat old outlets.. Max C. will probably find these interesting..
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Post by Max C. on Oct 2, 2016 14:06:37 GMT -5
Awesome Cole! That single-outlet GFCI must have one of the first ever manufactured. Is there any date on it? Also, is it CSA listed, or only UL?
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Post by becausecanadia on Oct 2, 2016 16:51:55 GMT -5
Wow, those are ancient.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 4, 2016 10:31:08 GMT -5
Awesome Cole! That single-outlet GFCI must have one of the first ever manufactured. Is there any date on it? Also, is it CSA listed, or only UL? Is it worth anything?
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Post by Max C. on Oct 7, 2016 2:25:06 GMT -5
As a collectable item, absolutely. However, it would likely prove impractical by today's standards due to its size and the lack of a second available outlet.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 9, 2016 14:01:37 GMT -5
As a collectible item, absolutely. However, it would likely prove impractical by today's standards due to its size and the lack of a second available outlet. How much? And what would these have cost new in their day?
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Post by Cole D on Oct 15, 2016 19:51:38 GMT -5
That single GFCI has the Bell name on it, I believe it was first made by Square D however. I will have to check for a CSA rating. It is probably from the late 1970s. Pass and Seymour claims they invented the GFCI outlet in 1971, Leviton followed in 1972, those both were duplex outlets. They looked similar to that GE GFCI in my last post. I believe these outlets were around $70 or so at the time, which was a lot of money back in the day. They have come down in price a lot, I believe you can get them for $10 or $15 dollars now. There are also a lot more safety features built in compared to back then.
As far as GFCI I believe the NEC first required them for lights in pools back in the 1960s. Then moved on to exteriors and bathrooms in the mid 1970s. I will say, my house built in 1976 did not include any as far as I know. A relative's house built in 1978 had Square D GFCI breakers for the bathroom and outside outlets.
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Post by Max C. on Nov 9, 2016 23:58:32 GMT -5
That single GFCI has the Bell name on it, I believe it was first made by Square D however. I will have to check for a CSA rating. It is probably from the late 1970s. Pass and Seymour claims they invented the GFCI outlet in 1971, Leviton followed in 1972, those both were duplex outlets. They looked similar to that GE GFCI in my last post. I believe these outlets were around $70 or so at the time, which was a lot of money back in the day. They have come down in price a lot, I believe you can get them for $10 or $15 dollars now. There are also a lot more safety features built in compared to back then. As far as GFCI I believe the NEC first required them for lights in pools back in the 1960s. Then moved on to exteriors and bathrooms in the mid 1970s. I will say, my house built in 1976 did not include any as far as I know. A relative's house built in 1978 had Square D GFCI breakers for the bathroom and outside outlets. That is unbelievably early compared to the Canadian Electrical Code (CEC). It was only in the late 70s or possibly even early 80s that GFCIs first made their way up here. In fact, kitchens did not even require GFCI protection until around 2006 or so (no joke)! To this day, the CEC does not necessitate GFCIs in garages, however AFCIs certainly are insisted upon (assuming the garage is attached to a house).
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Post by Jordan U on Nov 10, 2016 15:28:24 GMT -5
You of all people should know that assumptions aught never to be made when working with electricity!
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Post by Max C. on Nov 10, 2016 22:34:52 GMT -5
You of all people should know that assumptions aught never to be made when working with electricity! True enough, however The Canadian Electrical Code is incredibly vague in many cases! Regarding this specific example, there is no explicit rule in-favor of AFCI protection for a detached garage. Nevertheless, many inspectors still ask for it due to their interpretation of other areas in the Code.
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