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Post by Parkman on Aug 21, 2016 20:29:45 GMT -5
I like it. Can't be as awful as the original Concentra. Everyone I've dealt with was loud including the one I owned. I wasn't upset that that model got redesigned.. The Panama however is another story.
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Post by Max C. on Aug 25, 2016 15:13:50 GMT -5
I didn't exactly aim to win this Emerson Wyatt, it was an open box damage/return item and I threw in a super low bid for the heck of it. The fan itself is complete and in perfect condition, but the box is a bit tattered in areas. Wasn't a bad purchase, gave me a chance to work with something completely different from Emerson and overall it's a nice fan. Runs super quiet, which is always more impressive with a hugger fan, and air movement is average but good. Kind of annoying to assemble, but it does have a really nice seamless appearance that gives me a certain Craftmade Warbirds vibe. I would not have expected to see this from Emerson. You are spot on in regards to the fan appearing rather Craftmadesque! As per usual:
Apologies in advance for the long post, I just have a lot to say here regarding current Casablanca fans and hope that you'll hear me out. Another damaged box item, the fan is perfect. I've been wanting to acquire one of Casablanca's redesigned models for observation but only if I can get them for little to nothing. The Panama and Concentra are main areas of interest since they're models I've worked with a bit more, I'd like to work with a new Panama XLP but I was happy to acquire the Concentra as it's probably my favorite of the redesigned models if I had to choose one aesthetically speaking. Expectations were more than exceeded with this one, it was not the underpowered glorified Hunter I expected. Yes, I work closely with Hunter and Casablanca, so some might say I'm a bit overly optimistic when it comes to the products and the companies themselves, but they have also come to value my opinion and I truly want to tell it like it is whether it be good or bad. I'll tell you, when I open up one of these new fans from them, I go into it with extremely low expectations. I'm actually looking for every fault, I'm not oblivious to the fact that these fans are not what they were 10 years ago and if there's something honestly and truly wrong I want to find it. To jump right into things, I put this one up, turned it on, and heard nothing. Absolutely nothing. It's a smaller motor than before, but it's totally silent, to the point that I'd say it's actually an improvement over the old Concentra which is notorious for hum. High speed is anything but underpowered, it's actually what I would call a high speed, and between this and an old Concentra I don't feel any major difference in air movement even with the slight drop in CFM of the new model. Yes, it moves a 'little less air', but the human body can't really tell so why does it matter? I only care if I can tell a difference. It's 4 speed, with a gorgeous aesthetic low. You can't be disappointed with something like that on a pull chain fan, I really do love that aspect. The metal is mostly stamped which I of course don't love when there used to be more cast components, but it's at least pretty heavy metal. I don't think the motor housing has changed at all from the old version, everything feels comparable to other high-end stamped metal fans, if not better than many. The blades are as beautiful as ever, despite being a new shape, quality was not compromised there. I just think there's been a lot of unfair judgement based on appearance and specs on paper without having worked with the actual products ourselves. I don't love all the appearances of these fans or necessarily certain changes in the build, but I'm finding that they actually perform quite well and I think that makes the other changes a little bit more tolerable. Hmm, I am actually unsure of how to feel with this one. The new "bubble blades" are almost unbelievably fitting, however the blade brackets and switch housing...no señor! Then again, considering the specifications, there is far less to complain about than what some may have gathered prior to your honest analysis. Nevertheless, I feel there is still room for valid concern, at least regarding other models. Since you work so frequently with Casablanca, have you obtained a concrete answer as to why almost anything stack motor has become the enemy, why the Panama was "improved" and why support for classic models is dwindling by the day? It is also worth noting that reviews such as this are becoming increasingly mainstream...
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guyoffans98
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Post by guyoffans98 on Aug 25, 2016 16:05:41 GMT -5
I like it
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 25, 2016 21:02:26 GMT -5
Do we know who made the Northwind? This is clearly from the same place. If I get a chance I'll look again but as of this second I'm not digging it out to find out.
Motor is 153x17.
I've given up on arguing about the appearance of new Casablanca fans. Appearance is subjective, I don't love everything about how they look, but if you just completely drop the aesthetics it's not a bad fan. Unfortunately I don't have 'their' answers to any of our questions. If you want my opinion, they're making business decisions that make sense. They may not have executed them well from the start, which I think has been realized and they're doing a lot of damage control now. Those new fans this year are top-notch, I think there's still cool stuff to come from Casablanca. Streamlining the blade pattern, utilizing the same type of motor across the entire lineup, changing to a universal switch housing, those things make sense from a current consumer standpoint and a business standpoint. I would say cost-cutting is a part of the overall concept, however I would also say it's unfair to portray that as the sole driving force. I don't care what the blade pattern is, but changing to a universal pattern across the line was a great move to avoid confusion with consumers. I know for a fact people complained often about standard blades versus badge blades. In the age of online ordering, people were getting the wrong thing. I don't agree with how they're cutting support for their old fans, I find it somewhat understandable because honestly you can't support everything forever and there is no company that does, however I agree that it's completely unacceptable at this point in time. I also feel that their customer service is atrocious, but again these are different areas of their operations that have no bearing on my opinion of the physical fan hanging on the ceiling in front of me.
Your link didn't work, but I don't even have to see it to say again that I feel online consumer complaint reviews are a skewed representation. There are always going to be a million bad reviews for every good one.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 25, 2016 21:09:37 GMT -5
This may be an appropriate place to bring this up... Has anyone ever used the Casablanca 120 day In Home Warranty Service?
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 25, 2016 21:13:09 GMT -5
Good question, given I don't think any of us would typically need it since we usually solve our own problems.
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 25, 2016 23:44:39 GMT -5
Oh, wow. From the same place as a Northwind. King of Fans makes Emersons for all I know, and CEI I think made the old Northwinds (pre-2000). CEI apparently also made the 90s and early 00s Low Profiles for Hunter, or so I've been told, so I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter also uses them as an OEM.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 26, 2016 7:17:35 GMT -5
I know Chien Lieu Industries or whatever its called makes the Pro Series line.
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Post by Noah C on Aug 26, 2016 19:46:08 GMT -5
Oh, wow. From the same place as a Northwind. King of Fans makes Emersons for all I know, and CEI I think made the old Northwinds (pre-2000). CEI apparently also made the 90s and early 00s Low Profiles for Hunter, or so I've been told, so I wouldn't be surprised if Hunter also uses them as an OEM. Most Emerson's don't come out of King of Fans/Chien Luen factories. Some low end ones are outsourced to them, but their higher end stuff is not.
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 26, 2016 23:57:03 GMT -5
Are you sure?
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 30, 2016 13:07:42 GMT -5
Casablanca Constellation acquired. I've wanted one of these for years, but never enough to pay any really large sum to obtain one. It's in pretty good shape, cleaned up good, but it clearly came from a smoker's home based on the odor. I got it neutralized pretty good to the point that it really only remains apparent on the vent screens. Would've of course preferred no light so that it would've had the decorative switch cap, but I've also been wanting this particular light and glass so I'm good with it.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 30, 2016 16:32:23 GMT -5
Like the Brass/Rosewood combo and it with 5 blades much better! Did these come with the light kits? Where'd you end up getting it?
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 30, 2016 19:26:28 GMT -5
5 blades always look better with these particular chunky badge blade arms IMO. Those big gaps are way too off-putting for me.
Just discovered that this one is a Gallery Edition, so this one did come with the light.
eBay.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 30, 2016 20:03:59 GMT -5
I'm with you on the blade arms, actually I like most Casablancas with 5 blades except for the Four Seasons, Zephyr, Delta, and a lot of the older models. The Panama I loath with 4 blades, the only one I ever thought remotely liked in that configuration was Jean's Bright Brass 4 Speed Panama.
This looks very appropriate with this light kit. I've seen it on several Panamas (Or at least whatever Casablanca made more recent that was equivalent to this.)
I missed this one, I usually search Casablanca fan on ebay or vintage ceiling fan once a day.
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 31, 2016 0:32:53 GMT -5
I always did like the Constellation... cool fan, blades appear to be suspended from nothing due to the fact that the arms are "hidden" from view... the medallions appear to "float"... maybe thats where they got the name for it?
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