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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jul 27, 2016 21:07:18 GMT -5
Ah well antique oak is Casablanca most beautiful blade finish anyway.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 27, 2016 21:11:38 GMT -5
Ah well antique oak is Casablanca most beautiful blade finish anyway. It is gorgeous, and it's pretty universal at least. I'm just glad I didn't get 18 sets of like classic white or something, that would've been pretty useless.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 29, 2016 11:14:26 GMT -5
Grabbed this Regency LX with Mood Glow up lights and Select Touch control system a couple weeks back, from a pretty extensive home remodel that we've been doing the electrical for at work. Homeowners asked if we knew anyone who wanted a ceiling fan and I was like 'ME!'. They did in fact replace the fan with a new Casablanca Fellini, which I have to say actually didn't disappoint me when I turned it on. The LX was never a model that appealed much to me, I've really only seen a couple white ones in the past though and seeing this one in AB with beautiful classic blades and light kit changed my mind about them. Originally it was on an 18" downrod installed over stairs (so is the new fan), I swapped it with a shorter one. The Select Touch control is essentially the same as what other brands have used, I like it overall but low speed is WAY too fast. Decent air movement, it's pretty much standard Regency.
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Post by Jordan U on Jul 30, 2016 14:17:06 GMT -5
You're talking the Regency Marquis-MX? It was discontinued in the 90s I think. No, these Matthews-Gerbar rotational fans are insane performers. Really the epitome of a quality fan, too. It's pretty simple electrically, it's just essentially a cylinder with stationary contacts, and then a set of contacts mounted on the rotational part which maintains the electrical connection but with no physical wires or connectors to hinder rotation. I don't really understand the 'performance series'. There's nothing distinguishing about them, I guess maybe the fact that they were the more basic or traditional looking fans. They were meant to perform, not look overly pretty. That's all I can come up with lol. I'm not disclosing the cost to anyone out of personal preference. I figured it must use some sort of system like that,, I wonder how long that would last before it wears out..
That's cool,, I understand..
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 31, 2016 10:47:48 GMT -5
Well, there are Gerbar fans of this design from the 60s still running strong all over Brazil, so I'm none too worried about this one wearing out on me.
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Post by Max C. on Jul 31, 2016 13:30:57 GMT -5
Grabbed this Regency LX with Mood Glow up lights and Select Touch control system a couple weeks back, from a pretty extensive home remodel that we've been doing the electrical for at work. Homeowners asked if we knew anyone who wanted a ceiling fan and I was like 'ME!'. They did in fact replace the fan with a new Casablanca Fellini, which I have to say actually didn't disappoint me when I turned it on. The LX was never a model that appealed much to me, I've really only seen a couple white ones in the past though and seeing this one in AB with beautiful classic blades and light kit changed my mind about them. Originally it was on an 18" downrod installed over stairs (so is the new fan), I swapped it with a shorter one. The Select Touch control is essentially the same as what other brands have used, I like it overall but low speed is WAY too fast. Decent air movement, it's pretty much standard Regency. This combination actually rather pleasant. Are the globes original? Also, If I may ask, what did said electrical work entail?
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 31, 2016 22:22:15 GMT -5
The globes are what they had on it. They had a couple other light fixtures utilizing matching glass, so I'm not sure if it's Regency glass or something else. Probably something else.
Essentially it was an entire living space overhaul on their upper floor, so a completely reformatted kitchen/dining room/living room, and they sort of converted a very small existing bedroom into a new laundry/office space. So we put in a sub panel that was conducive to route any new circuits through the finished basement, reconfigured all the appliance, lighting, receptacle circuits as needed, added wiring for under and over-cabinet lighting, added 'recessed' lighting throughout the kitchen, living room, hallway, and laundry/office (I say 'recessed' because we use LED fixtures that look like recessed but mount to a conventional box), replaced existing light fixtures and the ceiling fan, installed new switches and receptacles. That pretty much covers it, basically everything from initial demo to the finished product.
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Post by fancollector12 on Aug 1, 2016 1:04:09 GMT -5
That's definitely not a bad fan, I do like it... the control system seems intuitive.
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Post by Max C. on Aug 1, 2016 14:30:01 GMT -5
The globes are what they had on it. They had a couple other light fixtures utilizing matching glass, so I'm not sure if it's Regency glass or something else. Probably something else. They do not appear to possess a "Regencyesque" appearance... Essentially it was an entire living space overhaul on their upper floor, so a completely reformatted kitchen/dining room/living room, and they sort of converted a very small existing bedroom into a new laundry/office space. So we put in a sub panel that was conducive to route any new circuits through the finished basement, reconfigured all the appliance, lighting, receptacle circuits as needed, added wiring for under and over-cabinet lighting, added 'recessed' lighting throughout the kitchen, living room, hallway, and laundry/office (I say 'recessed' because we use LED fixtures that look like recessed but mount to a conventional box), replaced existing light fixtures and the ceiling fan, installed new switches and receptacles. That pretty much covers it, basically everything from initial demo to the finished product. Soon-to-be electrical apprentice here...tell me more What were the specifications on the sub panel (brand series, and size)? What type and brand of devices did you install? Were the LED fixtures this type by any chance? For general-use branch circuits, did you run #12 wire, or #14? Were GFCI and AFCI protection provided at the branch circuit or device level? Metal or plastic boxes (excluding anything fan-related, of course)? Any Code violations to correct? That should cover it...
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 1, 2016 20:11:02 GMT -5
For new installations we typically use Eaton BR products since that's what our preferred supply house deals in. I think it was just a small 12 space 100 Amp, I don't recall specifically as it's been nearly two months since we did that phase of it. We used just standard light almond P&S devices as that's the standard at the supply house, tamper of course pretty much everywhere. The LEDs were similar. We ended up with Halo's version, something like this, I'm not sure of the exact series as we don't typically use them. They're annoying to install, I can tell you that: www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/lighting/products/recessed_general_purpose_downlighting/led/6-inch-led-SLD6/_853428.brands.lighting!halo!led.html We typically use a really low-cost brand that our supply house carries, they're actually a super nice product for the price and install in a snap. We installed them on this job, but the homeowners didn't care for the more rounded lens on the bottom and liked the flat of the Halos. I still for the life of me can't retain memory of what the brand is for more than two seconds. It's not a major well-known brand, which is why I can never remember what it is. For general circuits it was #14, for the small appliance branch circuits and whatnot in the kitchen portion it was #12. There wasn't a LOT to run (clearly, since the sub panel was so small), it was a lot of reworking what was there. The majority of what was run new was for the lighting (off of reworked existing circuits), and brand new stuff for the island in the kitchen, which didn't previously exist. Some other small new things here and there where they opened walls, but all just reconfiguring in that case. We put GFCI/AFCI combo breakers in the new panel, there were also some GFCI receptacles installed for existing circuits, etc. I think it was all plastic boxes, in most cases we go plastic for a residential project of this size. If it's like cutting in just one outlet or something for a job, we may use a plastic pop-in, or may use a metal gangable. Sometimes just depends on what's in the van. Don't tell anyone, but they're not having it inspected. So no corrections, but I'm confident in saying that we do quality work and didn't do anything sketchy.
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Post by Max C. on Aug 1, 2016 21:39:50 GMT -5
For new installations we typically use Eaton BR products since that's what our preferred supply house deals in. I think it was just a small 12 space 100 Amp, I don't recall specifically as it's been nearly two months since we did that phase of it. Eaton BR is actually decent for an entry-level series. It definitely beats Federal Pacific We used just standard light almond P&S devices as that's the standard at the supply house, tamper of course pretty much everywhere. Pass & Seymour is also what many supply houses carry in these parts. Their residential devices are surprisingly durable, and Trademaster wall plates are literally unbeatable in regards to strength! In the National Electrical Code, does there exist any exceptions pertaining to the installation of tamper resistant receptacles at certain heights? To my knowledge, the Canadian Electrical Code states they are not required when above 39.37" (one meter) floor-level. The LEDs were similar. We ended up with Halo's version, something like this, I'm not sure of the exact series as we don't typically use them. They're annoying to install, I can tell you that: www.cooperindustries.com/content/public/en/lighting/products/recessed_general_purpose_downlighting/led/6-inch-led-SLD6/_853428.brands.lighting!halo!led.html We typically use a really low-cost brand that our supply house carries, they're actually a super nice product for the price and install in a snap. We installed them on this job, but the homeowners didn't care for the more rounded lens on the bottom and liked the flat of the Halos. I still for the life of me can't retain memory of what the brand is for more than two seconds. It's not a major well-known brand, which is why I can never remember what it is. Econo-Light? That is the only "really low-cost" LED brand that comes to mind... For general circuits it was #14, for the small appliance branch circuits and whatnot in the kitchen portion it was #12. There wasn't a LOT to run (clearly, since the sub panel was so small), it was a lot of reworking what was there. The majority of what was run new was for the lighting (off of reworked existing circuits), and brand new stuff for the island in the kitchen, which didn't previously exist. Some other small new things here and there where they opened walls, but all just reconfiguring in that case. We put GFCI/AFCI combo breakers in the new panel, there were also some GFCI receptacles installed for existing circuits, etc. I have heard that some municipalities down in the United States require #12 for all general-use branch circuits, however this somewhat nonsensical in residential applications. It has been said that Eaton produces the best AFCI-related products. Don't tell anyone, but they're not having it inspected. So no corrections, but I'm confident in saying that we do quality work and didn't do anything sketchy. Oh no, the horror So long as everything is Code-compliant and ( most importantly) safe, which I would not doubt coming from a detail-oriented guy such as yourself
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Post by Parkman on Aug 1, 2016 21:50:23 GMT -5
I'll throw in two cents after reading the thread... When it comes to receptacles I hate Pass and Seymour, I always end up getting a bad one. I prefer Leviton any day over there stuff.
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 5, 2016 21:23:12 GMT -5
Max, I'm not quoting you for sake of having to go through and separate everything. XD
The NEC does allow for non-tamper at a certain height. For a residential project, we typically just go all tamper since there are so few applications where non tamper would apply and it doesn't warrant ordering two types of devices.
Our usual supply house also deals in Leviton, but it's not the go-to for filling orders. The P&S is good stuff, I honestly don't hold a lot of preference I guess. Everybody seems to hate Leviton, but I've never had major issue with them.
Not Econo-Light, I'd consider that a well-known brand and could remember them being that. These are literally like some no-name Chinese import things, I think it's sun-something, or something-sun. I'll to try to pay attention next time. But I've not been disappointed with them for what they are, really great output and color, and I really like the appearance of them.
Yeah, there are always local code amendments that could determine that. I don't know of any locations for that requirement offhand.
Yes, this was a very weird job that got dumped on us from a customer we do other work for at his business. We're kind of at his disposal on how he's doing things, even if they're not entirely kosher.
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 5, 2016 21:28:16 GMT -5
I'll throw in two cents after reading the thread... When it comes to receptacles I hate Pass and Seymour, I always end up getting a bad one. I prefer Leviton any day over there stuff. First time I've seen that lol. Like I said above, nobody ever has anything good to say about Leviton. Personally, I've never had a problem with them, I used Leviton throughout when I swapped all the devices upstairs in our house to decora and they've been fine. I also hold a slight partiality to Leviton because they were the FIRST major company to network with me on social media. Before Casablanca, before Hunter, before Emerson, it was Leviton who regrammed my pictures and left comments. Made me feel like they appreciate their customers (which they do, they're always giving away merchandise and clothing through suppliers).
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Post by Parkman on Aug 6, 2016 7:07:20 GMT -5
Thats awesome with the merchandise and clothing. Alot of people will say oh its just promotional and yes it is but at the same time its helps build something with the company.
In 2007, Hunter sent me some free pull chains for just calling them up and talking.
Meanwhile, Casablanca had sent me a PDF Catalog of a third party that handled all their merchandise in that regard. Prices were in a separate document butt he stuff they had was really neat! Decals, bumper stickers, sweatshirts, t-shirts, mirrors, bar stools. I mean an awesome piece. Unfortunately here we are 9 years later and I don't have it cause that computer died. But maybe one day someone will be able to find this cool document.
Back tho the point of the document haha. I've noticed the "finish" if you will of Pass and Seymour is better in regards to the ends are smoother but I've had bad ones and ones that the screws were stripped out the first time a screw driver touched them. I wonder if different companies make them and then different regions of the country get different suppliers pieces or perhaps its just bad luck. I know a lot of these companies are still made in the USA!
Anyone have an opinion on GE? I've seen their items at Walmart but have no use to try it out yet.
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