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Post by todthefanman on Dec 8, 2015 12:57:06 GMT -5
Same here now that you mention it, on YouTube I've seen the II in antique brass and at a restaurant I haven't been to in years they had the I's in antique brass. Did they ever make them in polished brass? I do not believe they did..I don't think they did either. I don't get why the Minuet I is labeled Minute II in some pictures and catalogs.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 8, 2015 13:02:38 GMT -5
I don't think they did either. I don't get why the Minuet I is labeled Minute II in some pictures and catalogs. I think the greater question revolves around the Minuet 1, or was it always the 2? Even in the Hampton Bay catalogues themselves, the Minuet 2 is the earlier one with the C irons.. I do not recall ever seeing a plain old Minuet fan..
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Post by todthefanman on Dec 8, 2015 13:41:04 GMT -5
I don't think they did either. I don't get why the Minuet I is labeled Minute II in some pictures and catalogs. I think the greater question revolves around the Minuet 1, or was it always the 2? Even in the Hampton Bay catalogues themselves, the Minuet 2 is the earlier one with the C irons.. I do not recall ever seeing a plain old Minuet fan..
Me neither, but then again theres another one called the II which has those oval blade arms. So it really confuses me as to which ones really the Minuet II and what the Minuet I is like.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 8, 2015 14:49:42 GMT -5
Me neither, but then again theres another one called the II which has those oval blade arms. So it really confuses me as to which ones really the Minuet II and what the Minuet I is like. They're all the 2.. lol.. Years ago I had one of the ones with the odd irons you just mentioned.. Would love to get one to have in my collection one day.. It was a pretty good fan..
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Post by todthefanman on Dec 8, 2015 21:29:19 GMT -5
Me neither, but then again theres another one called the II which has those oval blade arms. So it really confuses me as to which ones really the Minuet II and what the Minuet I is like. They're all the 2.. lol.. Years ago I had one of the ones with the odd irons you just mentioned.. Would love to get one to have in my collection one day.. It was a pretty good fan..So there wasn't a 1 there was 2 2's? Lol so complicated.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 9, 2015 10:20:40 GMT -5
So there wasn't a 1 there was 2 2's? Lol so complicated. I've never heard of a 1, but knowing how Hampton Bay is with their naming schemes, I wouldn't put anything past them..
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Post by Max C. on Dec 11, 2015 0:23:49 GMT -5
The general progression of the Hampton Bay Minuet Series is relatively straightforward, although there is one potential version that stands in question. The history of the two most prevalent models is as follows:
In 1997, The Big Orange introduced the original Minuet fan - sometimes referred to as "the Minuet I." This was literally a re-branded SMC DC-30, with the exception of an uncommon transitional model that was manufactured by PowerMax. Then, sometime in late 1998 or early 1999, the second edition of the fan was became available (again, manufactured by PowerMax). It used different blade brackets and had an integrated light kit. I am unsure if these first Minuet IIs were ever distributed here in Canada, as I am yet to see one. Home Depot would later switch to SMC, then back to PowerMax and even King Of Fans for a short period of time, depending upon the year. Confusion regarding the Minuet II arises from the use of an outdated stock photo and leftover display models that differ from the actual product a customer would receive in the box. The Minuet II was officially discontinued in late 2008 or early 2009. In Canada, this discontinuation could have possibly taken place earlier.
There was another Hampton Bay fan which appears to be a Minuet, however this has not been confirmed to my knowledge. From what I can gather, this was manufactured by Air Cool. Here is a link to the only known video of this fan:
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Post by Jonathan A. on Dec 11, 2015 0:28:46 GMT -5
The general progression of the Hampton Bay Minuet Series is relatively straightforward, although there is one potential version that stands in question. The history of the two most prevalent models is as follows: In 1997, The Big Orange introduced the original Minuet fan - sometimes referred to as "the Minuet I." This was literally a re-branded SMC DC-30. Then, sometime in late 1998 or early 1999, the second edition of the fan was became available. This differed from the original Minuet, as it was originally manufactured by PowerMax (not SMC), used different blade brackets and had an integrated light kit. I am unsure if these first Minuet IIs were ever distributed here in Canada, as I am yet to see one. The confusion regarding the Minuet II arises from the use of an outdated stock photo and leftover display models that differ from the actual product a customer would receive in the box. Home Depot would later switch to SMC, then back to PowerMax and even King Of Fans for a short period, depending upon the year. The Minuet II was officially discontinued in late 2008 or early 2009. In Canada, this discontinuation could have possibly taken place earlier. There was another Hampton Bay fan which appears to be a Minuet, however this has not been confirmed to my knowledge. From what I can gather, this was manufactured by Air Cool. Here is a link to the only known video of this fan: One of my Minuet IIs is dated December 1998, and has model number ending with "30" instead of "32", so it tells me that this motor might have been leftover from previous version.
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Post by Max C. on Dec 11, 2015 14:17:58 GMT -5
One of my Minuet IIs is dated December 1998, and has model number ending with "30" instead of "32", so it tells me that this motor might have been leftover from previous version. Jonah, what is the full model number listed on the fan?
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Post by Jonathan A. on Dec 11, 2015 14:57:19 GMT -5
One of my Minuet IIs is dated December 1998, and has model number ending with "30" instead of "32", so it tells me that this motor might have been leftover from previous version. Jonah, what is the full model number listed on the fan? EF200-30. Other one says EF200L-32
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Post by Max C. on Dec 11, 2015 15:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by Jonathan A. on Dec 11, 2015 15:38:17 GMT -5
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bjIiKHvnLEWarren's video. There seems to be a PowerMax 30" Minuet at 1:30 in video. Notice the 2 stickers on motor. I should also say that the chains on my older Minuet II are 90 degree apart, while the chains on my newer one are 180 degree apart.
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Post by Max C. on Dec 11, 2015 19:06:58 GMT -5
The fan depicted in the video (which is actually clear enough so you can see what is happening) must be an uncommon transitional model only produced for a short amount of time. Again, I doubt your older Minuet II would use a motor rated for a 30" bladespan. I should also say that the chains on my older Minuet II are 90 degree apart, while the chains on my newer one are 180 degree apart. Have you measured?
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Post by Jonathan A. on Dec 11, 2015 19:42:13 GMT -5
The fan depicted in the video (which is actually clear enough so you can see what is happening) must be an uncommon transitional model only produced for a short amount of time. Again, I doubt your older Minuet II would use a motor rated for a 30" bladespan. I should also say that the chains on my older Minuet II are 90 degree apart, while the chains on my newer one are 180 degree apart. Have you measured? I would believe that both 30" Minuet and 32" Minuet would have the same motor, 2" doesn't make a lot of difference. It's just obvious that chains are directly across from each other on my newer Minuet II, and are more like 90° on my older Minuet II.
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Post by Jordan U on Dec 12, 2015 23:10:31 GMT -5
Since there are apparently two identical models here, is there yet another third part who's making parts, or are the companies selling the patents to each other? I don't see how they could both make identical fans..Also, great color choice on the labels! Its so easy to see which one is SMC and PowerMax! I measured this afternoon,, they're actually 173 degrees and 90.2 degrees.. He really needs a new protractor
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