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Post by Adam D. on Nov 25, 2011 19:24:43 GMT -5
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Post by fancollector12 on Nov 25, 2011 19:36:41 GMT -5
If someone posts a wiring diagram you could figure out where all the wires go. My guess is that the fan probably stopped working and it was determined that the capacitor was the problem. From the looks of it, it looks like it has a replacement pull chain switch and it was hung outside.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 25, 2011 19:59:54 GMT -5
The pull chain switch looks to be very old, which leads me to believe it was originally a 3 speed, though it could have been converted shortly after the fan was bought new.. But you're right, it looks like someone was trying to repair the fan...
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Post by Rick M. on Nov 26, 2011 0:41:10 GMT -5
I'm guessing that that 3-speed pull chain is not original; I've never seen a pull chain operated version. I'm not really sure how it works, but these fans usually have a little dial on the side. I *think* it's a very small-range variable speed control, as the lower speeds make the fan stall out.
Video for reference (fast forward to about 0:33):
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Post by Andrew G. on Nov 26, 2011 13:09:39 GMT -5
Friction-drives were never two or three speed, they were ALWAYS variable speed. They use a cardboard box variable speed control with a trim pot (that tiny little plastic wheel in the box itself which regulates the minimum speed the control will allow, in order to avoid stalling). Friction-drives, both 52" and 36", use smallish shaded-pole motors (box fan-size for 52", large desk fan-size for 36").. thus no need for a capacitor.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 26, 2011 13:35:36 GMT -5
Well I have two options then.. #1: leave it as a two or three speed, which ever the case may be with the pull switch, or #2: find a replaceable variable speed control, which is probably impossible to find, unless Emerson still sells replacements, or a collector who has the part, I doubt they would give it up.. Which ever option, I would need some kind of diagram to wire it, and if I have to wire the pull switch I would need to find what capacitor I would need to work.. Hum maybe I could take a capacitor out of some newer junk I come across next.. Then next I would want to locate a switch housing cap...
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Post by fancollector12 on Nov 26, 2011 15:15:00 GMT -5
Emerson doesn't sell parts for these fans as far as I know, however, Sears has a parts site, they have parts for fans, I will try and find it for you. The switch cap is not a big deal, you can just put a light on it.
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Post by Cole S. on Nov 26, 2011 16:29:35 GMT -5
Well I have two options then.. #1: leave it as a two or three speed, which ever the case may be with the pull switch, or #2: find a replaceable variable speed control, which is probably impossible to find, unless Emerson still sells replacements, or a collector who has the part, I doubt they would give it up.. Which ever option, I would need some kind of diagram to wire it, and if I have to wire the pull switch I would need to find what capacitor I would need to work.. Hum maybe I could take a capacitor out of some newer junk I come across next.. Then next I would want to locate a switch housing cap... I should think this would work just fine for the speed control: www.ebay.com/itm/Solid-State-AC-speed-Control-Blower-motors-/130600576479?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6866a5df#ht_500wt_1314If I'm incorrect, someone tell me so because I have no experience with FDs, but I've gotten a few of these and they've got the trim pot and seem to be a pretty universal motor control. |
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 26, 2011 19:04:18 GMT -5
Hum, that switch may work, but the switch it's self may be an issue to fit.. I'd rather have no light kit.. I like most of my fans without light kits.. There's been times I passed up on fans due to the fact it had a light kit, or was missing the switch housing cap..
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Post by Cole S. on Nov 26, 2011 23:09:08 GMT -5
I wondered about the size as well, but it's about the standard size of those usually found in fans, I'm not sure how big the box was on the ones used in FDs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 23:30:40 GMT -5
These fans all were variable speed, someone messed with this one. They use a very standard box control like the link.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 28, 2011 1:26:53 GMT -5
Hum, that switch may work, but the switch it's self may be an issue to fit.. I'd rather have no light kit.. I like most of my fans without light kits.. There's been times I passed up on fans due to the fact it had a light kit, or was missing the switch housing cap.. Ah! I'm the same for light kits too.  |
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 28, 2011 10:30:47 GMT -5
Yup, I don't like light kits on fans, but some of them, depending on the fan looks great with light kits..
I pulled out the pull switch and it's only two black wires, one white and one Blue for light.. So I don't think a diagram would be necessary, should be simple enough if the variable speed control has it's own capacitor..
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2011 13:09:01 GMT -5
Friction Drives dont usually have a capacitor, if memory serves.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 28, 2011 17:05:27 GMT -5
I hookup it up directly and it works, the motor is a bit buzzy even without a variable speed control.. I think you're right about it not having a capacitor, unless there's one in the motor housing..
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