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Post by Cole S. on Aug 2, 2010 14:59:36 GMT -5
In the US, in the 1980s= this: Yeah, and that's not even bad, there were some that were more open than that. Even up until a few years ago there were fans marketed here in town at a discount place that had really open grilles (Jean knows about that, as in my blue pedestal fan). There were multiple models too, some had four blue blades and a white body, some were all blue like the one I got, and a couple other variants I don't remember. They were all pedestal models though and had spaced grilles. Wish I'd gotten one of every model and saved the boxes for them.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 2, 2010 22:25:01 GMT -5
In the US, in the 1980s= this: That is very spaced for a fan made after 1980. It look more like the grills seen on late 1970s fans. Between 1980-1999 fans had finger-proof grills and by 2000 they started to make them slightly more spaced. Not as much as they were in the late 1970s though.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 2, 2010 22:48:52 GMT -5
In the US, in the 1980s= this: Yeah, and that's not even bad, there were some that were more open than that. Even up until a few years ago there were fans marketed here in town at a discount place that had really open grilles (Jean knows about that, as in my blue pedestal fan). There were multiple models too, some had four blue blades and a white body, some were all blue like the one I got, and a couple other variants I don't remember. They were all pedestal models though and had spaced grilles. Wish I'd gotten one of every model and saved the boxes for them. In the early to mid 1970s fans had very spaced grills, even more than the late 1970s ones. You could put your fingers across very easily. Those fans like the blue pedestal model you bought Cole are usually not sold in North America. I saw tons of them in Chad though. They are apparently sort of illegal here. If you check on it you probably won't find any UL listed stickers on it or any stickers that approves it and tells that its safe to use. But I think they are cool even if they are very cheap, usually have super weak and slow motors, the blades are like a sheet of plastic(very flexible) and the grills are spaced like the fans from the early to mid 1970s. I wish you would have got the 4 bladed white & blue model. Well its cool that you at least got one. The one you bought, did it came in an actual cardboard box or it was already all assembled and there was just a plastic to cover it? Like I said they are usually not sold in North America but are the most commonly sold across Africa. Asia and Middle East too. There possibly sold in a few European countries too but some European countries are probably starting to realize that they are too cheap, dangerous to use and not UL/CE listed so they start to be strict with those too. But in most of African countries they don't care much about safety with electrical appliances so there tones of those sold over there. We had one when we were living in N'Djamena in 2001-2002. It was branded CROWN and said Japan on it but I was told it was a lie just to make it look good quality if peoples thought it was made in Japan but It was actually made in Nigeria apparently. It was all purple with 4 blades made of a sheet of plastic and the motor was super weak. The high was the low of some other fans I already saw. LOL!
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 3, 2010 13:28:04 GMT -5
All the fans were in their sealed boxes at the store, except for one of each model assembled so you could see what it looked like. I was young at the time, and the parents made me pick just one model. I remember I was disappointed, because I wanted one of each. They weren't that expensive either I don't think, which makes me even more sad that I didn't get more of them. My blue one has a fair motor I think, not particularly fast, but fast enough to move some good air. I suppose to sell here they need to actually do something, or people would just go buy a better fan. On another note, I got that blue fan at the place that had a bunch of TAT, SMC (Laguna), and other cool unknown industrial ceiling fans installed throughout. There were SO MANY, like at least 50 or 60 various fans! Of course, they demoed the place now and IDK what happened to all the fans. They had some of those pedestals in use there as well.
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Post by tonyt on Aug 3, 2010 18:42:21 GMT -5
home depot still displays there fans i miss SMC osicalling fans they where dirt cheap and good fans
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Post by Perrey Z. on Aug 4, 2010 12:49:37 GMT -5
Today? This: Or this: With some variations between the two. If you ask me, I think the 1980s grille from the US, should have a stiff (non-flexible) window-screen mesh behind it, and that should be sold today. It would look vintage (80s vintage that is), while still being safe to an extent. Today, grilles are somewhat 1980s like here in the US, but they're more closer to Canadian standards. Still doesn't stop a child from sticking their fingers in the damn blades. This is consider Euro Mesh even though the first time it was use was in 1978 by Toshiba in Japan as an alternative to safety for babies who would be able to reach living fans at their height. At one point it was consider a fashion trend that became extra popular in 1987. Back then, it had the Plain center mark guard with the brand. (see pic) The trend never caught up in Japan and rapidly ended in Europe. However, It's still available from factories in Taiwan that produce fans for export. UL safety regulations mandates that the index finger cannot fit-in between spokes. To avoid pushing the spokes, an outer brace ring (See more pics) is added but not essentially required to hold the guard spoke together. Now, when a fan is imported to the U.S. and does not have any UL safety regulation, the guards will look like these., your thump finger fit-in perfectly which is a big No No; eBay photos are from fans I won last year.
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Post by tonyt on Aug 4, 2010 17:11:41 GMT -5
i love those fans , hate the euro mesh why is fan regualtions so strict ugh are parents and kids that dumb :Squint:
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Post by Chris H. on Aug 4, 2010 18:19:15 GMT -5
I never liked Euro-mesh. It's not around much anymore as far as I can tell...but yuck.
I always thought mesh grilles were new when I got that toes-eye.
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Post by tonyt on Aug 4, 2010 23:08:18 GMT -5
euro mesh blocks alot of air flow also
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Post by Chris H. on Aug 5, 2010 0:36:02 GMT -5
euro mesh blocks alot of air flow also It's not so much that they block airflow, it's just that because air is being forced through multiple holes (instead of slots like on a wire grille), the air is scattered. The difference is noticeable when you remove the front grille and the airflow is more direct. On a side note, wire grilles produce air reverberation. Just place a hand very close to the grille and you'll feel the air vibrating. It's a cool effect.
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Post by Chris H. on Aug 5, 2010 0:38:25 GMT -5
When did Farberware produce fans? I thought they produced cook ware and utensils.
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Post by Perrey Z. on Aug 5, 2010 10:58:00 GMT -5
i love those fans , hate the euro mesh why is fan regualtions so strict ugh are parents and kids that dumb :Squint: I know, but It's part of the safety standards. It's Funny because in the 1940s to the 1960s, the fans had barely any guard spokes and some had aluminum blades. Major hazard but I guess the baby boomers (our parents) were smarter back when they were kids and knew not to insert their fingers on a spinning blade even if it was tempting.
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Post by Perrey Z. on Aug 5, 2010 11:06:32 GMT -5
Now these days fans most be made of flame retardant plastics which means they will melt but won't ignite. They must have a "proper safety mechanism" to secure the wiring from been severed by the oscillation crank. AKA a clamp.
It's too bad UL doesn't regulate quality... could you imagine, every single fan in the market right now rejected. You can only dream....
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Post by tonyt on Aug 5, 2010 20:48:35 GMT -5
70s fans to me where safe enough and don;t have that much air restrction, mostly the offbalanced blades woudl fail qauity check lakso does still make good motors so they make make throught the motor pass, the blade check , there 12inch blades are sturdy just needs to be balanced better
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Post by Austin on Aug 15, 2010 22:44:48 GMT -5
I wonder if this one will get past the safety regulations of today. ;D Yes this fan did not have a front grille at all. It only had two little wires going around the blade to protect it from getting damaged
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