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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 17, 2010 14:19:30 GMT -5
I searched stuff about Relite Limited and they don't seem to produce fans anymore but I found they address. They were based in Surrey, UK! Relite IS the original British company for theses. Cole most of peoples in Europe install Relite fans in residential and very light commercial application. Overseas metal blades and a spinner motor does not mean Industrial fan necessarily. Also remember that overseas theses camed with quiet 5-speed controllers. As for 4 Seasons of Montréal it say on all of them that they were made by Venair INC in Taiwan. Synlix is apparently just a maker of parts, they have probably made a few parts here in there for 4 Seasons but 4 Seasons is too different from those American Gulf Coast fans. The models that they offered are too different. They are very silimar to the Taiwanese Commander though.
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Post by Tais on May 21, 2010 6:15:08 GMT -5
update: ABC industrial 36"
in UAE,we don't have anything called "industrial or non industrial" since the industrials are just everywhere, i also guess the wooden bladed decorative fans wouldn't be a good choice to put in dubai because it becomes intensely humid and hot in summer and that may cause the blades to warp
an SMC K56 fan can be found in the house or in a cement factory
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Post by Cole S. on May 21, 2010 17:54:00 GMT -5
Yes, I know overseas metal bladed fans are not industrial, but in North America they are considered industrial and I'm putting it through the viewpoint of fans in America. They are crapdustrials compared to a Goldline, and like I said, did not hold up in the applications they were marketed for in the States. And still don't get me wrong, I love these fans with a passion, and am always looking for more, but the fact that they're cheap remains.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 23, 2010 0:38:47 GMT -5
It also have do to with were the design were born. Spinners were first developed by the Italian Marelli company in the 1920s.
In the 1960s or so, a lot of Asian companies continue the design with a new type of motor called direct drive.
Basically metal bladed fans and spinners is an overseas design.
Stationary housing with wooden blades is a design from the USA.
Overseas, wood bladed fans are indeedly called Decorative ceiling fans usually.
Tais there no problem of having wood bladed fans in a dry climate. If you go in the new Dubai you should see a lot of Hunters fans. Most of those have wood blades. Plus I'm sure you have a lot of cheaper Decorative fans imported from China.
As for humid climates, think about it, Louisiana in the States have a lot of wood bladed fans and the climate is very humid over there. The thing is that you just have to install those wood bladed fans INSIDE and the blades won't wrap. I've seen a lot of pics of fans in Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand and they have quiet a lot of wood bladed fans and the blades are not neccearly warped. A way that wood bladed fans installed inside can have their blades wraping over time would be if its in a place where the climate is very humid and tropical like Thailand and the room where the fan is installed have no A/C and the fan is one of those current Chinese fans with the very skinny MDF blades, then I understand the blades could be wraped.
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Post by Andrew G. on May 23, 2010 1:09:06 GMT -5
It also have do to with were the design were born. Spinners were first developed by the Italian Marelli company in the 1920s. ...And you sir, are quite possibly very wrong. The first 'spinner' fans may have actually been introduced as early as 1900 by Century. Around 1909, saw the introduction of Westinghouse's first spinner fan, known as the 'Sidewinder.'
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 23, 2010 1:46:47 GMT -5
It also have do to with were the design were born. Spinners were first developed by the Italian Marelli company in the 1920s. ...And you sir, are quite possibly very wrong. The first 'spinner' fans may have actually been introduced as early as 1900 by Century. Around 1909, saw the introduction of Westinghouse's first spinner fan, known as the 'Sidewinder.' Those don't count. They are not real spinners. There a part of their housing that does not moves and the shape of their housings is just like most of stationary housing fans. Also they have wood blades with a switch housing/oil cup and are made in USA. Mareillis were made of cast iron and the WHOLE body revolves. They could have 3 or 4 blades. Usually 3. Sometimes metal or wood. Usually metal. NO switch housing/oil cup. The motor have a narrow can shape and not a flat and wide(donut) shape motor like American fans have. And of course they are wall controlled. This is definitely the best example of the first kind of spinners/industrials.
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Post by Andrew G. on May 23, 2010 1:55:18 GMT -5
Those don't count. They are not real spinners. It doesn't matter, Century may have created the spinner motor concept, whereas Marelli perfected it.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 23, 2010 2:00:56 GMT -5
Those don't count. They are not real spinners. It doesn't matter, these two manufacturers may have created the spinner motor concept, whereas Marelli perfected it. To be called spinners the whole body needs to revolves and you need to be able to see it revolving. Those Century and Westinghouse Sidewinder does not have anything to do with the profile of more current Industrials and spinners.
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Post by Andrew G. on May 23, 2010 2:14:59 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, these two manufacturers may have created the spinner motor concept, whereas Marelli perfected it. To be called spinners the whole body needs to revolves and you need to be able to see it revolving. Those Century and Westinghouse Sidewinder does not have anything to do with the profile of more current Industrials and spinners. So.. you're saying a Moss WF series or a Japanese Lasko.. are not spinners? The definition of "spinner" involves the stator sitting INSIDE of the rotor, and the rotor which revolves around the aforementioned centrally-placed stator. The rotor often makes up most if not all of the motor housing. The Westinghouse Sidewinder and the Century are no different than a Japanese Lasko or a Moss WF series, yet these are generally accepted as spinner fans. Again, Century and Westinghouse unveiled the spinner motor concept and overseas manufacturers tweaked the design.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 23, 2010 2:37:45 GMT -5
To be called spinners the whole body needs to revolves and you need to be able to see it revolving. Those Century and Westinghouse Sidewinder does not have anything to do with the profile of more current Industrials and spinners. So.. you're saying a Moss WF series or a Japanese Lasko.. are not spinners? The definition of "spinner" involves the stator sitting INSIDE of the rotor, and the rotor which revolves around the aforementioned centrally-placed stator. The rotor often makes up most if not all of the motor housing. The Westinghouse Sidewinder and the Century are no different than a Japanese Lasko or a Moss WF series, yet these are generally accepted as spinner fans. Again, Century and Westinghouse unveiled the spinner motor concept and overseas manufacturers tweaked the design. Exactly I don't consider top mount fans spinners. To me the term spinner is only and strictly about a visual thing. ''What you see is what matters'' I only call fans spinners when I can see the whole motor body revolving from the normal point of view of a fan which is under the fan. Of course if you look at a top mount from from the top you will see a bare direct drive motor spinning in the housing but not when you look at it from the bottom which is the normal point of view of a ceiling fan. And anyway like I said the motor in theses is bare not finished. I still hardly consider bottom mount spinners spinners so.... Also that's why I usually call them semi-spinners. ;D
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Post by Cole S. on May 23, 2010 10:49:56 GMT -5
Exactly I don't consider top mount fans spinners. To me the term spinner is only and strictly about a visual thing. ''What you see is what matters'' I only call fans spinners when I can see the whole motor body revolving from the normal point of view of a fan which is under the fan. Of course if you look at a top mount from from the top you will see a bare direct drive motor spinning in the housing but not when you look at it from the bottom which is the normal point of view of a ceiling fan. And anyway like I said the motor in theses is bare not finished. I still hardly consider bottom mount spinners spinners so.... Also that's why I usually call them semi-spinners. ;D Then this has got to be one of the most confusing ways of terming fans I've seen to date. I call most things top mount with a direct drive motor a spinner, I mean, take that thin little piece of metal covering the motor on a WF Series off, and you've got your moving motor. The only fan I regularly call "top mount" is the Palm Air spinner, just to specify which Palm Air spinner I'm talking about since most seem to call it that.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on May 24, 2010 4:13:17 GMT -5
Exactly I don't consider top mount fans spinners. To me the term spinner is only and strictly about a visual thing. ''What you see is what matters'' I only call fans spinners when I can see the whole motor body revolving from the normal point of view of a fan which is under the fan. Of course if you look at a top mount from from the top you will see a bare direct drive motor spinning in the housing but not when you look at it from the bottom which is the normal point of view of a ceiling fan. And anyway like I said the motor in theses is bare not finished. I still hardly consider bottom mount spinners spinners so.... Also that's why I usually call them semi-spinners. ;D Then this has got to be one of the most confusing ways of terming fans I've seen to date. I call most things top mount with a direct drive motor a spinner, I mean, take that thin little piece of metal covering the motor on a WF Series off, and you've got your moving motor. The only fan I regularly call "top mount" is the Palm Air spinner, just to specify which Palm Air spinner I'm talking about since most seem to call it that. What term is so confusing? Semi-spinner?
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Post by Cole S. on May 24, 2010 17:28:52 GMT -5
Just what term is applied to different fans, there are like three different terms for fans that are all technically spinners IMO.
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Post by Tais on Jun 12, 2010 4:20:17 GMT -5
update:
midea ceiling fan
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Post by Rick M. on Jun 12, 2010 11:56:57 GMT -5
I saw your other thread, and it looks like a cool ceiling fan. ;D
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