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Post by Matthew on Aug 22, 2005 23:14:01 GMT -5
btw matthew, i am now ASE certified:D Cool. Me too, I'm also attending DCA (Damlier Chrysler Academy) to become a Chrysler master mechanic. I'm also attending tech. college and taking four programs there(electronic trans overhaul, ABS systems, passive restraint systems and advance suspension and steering). working at the Dodge shop making 13.85/15.00 on saturdays and hour, ain't bad at all.
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 23, 2005 3:36:06 GMT -5
I ended up damaging one of the windings and connected them back together with a small wire. Now the fan will not start up. If I push it in either direction it will go. Also when I unplug the fan and touch the prongs, I get a shock, the capacitor is holding a charge. When I plug it in while the fan is apart I can see small little sparks where I connected the windings. Any clues??
I"ll be going to Home Depot to buy some wheel bearing grease, or is that something I should get at a auto part store?
Adam
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Post by Sean B. on Aug 23, 2005 14:17:01 GMT -5
It was probably the start winding. If you don't mind me asking, what fan is it?
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 23, 2005 15:16:49 GMT -5
One of the View Fans..
Matthew, I went and bought some Marine and Trailer Wheel Bearing Grease, and the bearings still makes the loud grinding noise....
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Post by Matthew on Aug 23, 2005 16:45:39 GMT -5
is the bearing completely fill of the grease? Once its completely packed it shouldnt make any noise or very little. You might have to take the seals off, very carefully and do it that way.
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 23, 2005 17:10:00 GMT -5
I cleaned them with WD-40 and QD contact cleaner, and stuffed the bearings with allot of grease on both sides of the bearings, I packed them so much I could barley spin the bearings with my hand, I put the motor back together and still makes the noise...
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Post by Matthew on Aug 23, 2005 18:00:47 GMT -5
How long have you been running the fan since you greased the bearings? They might need to break in, it usually took about five minutes on high. You might have to repack them if its still loud.
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 23, 2005 18:27:03 GMT -5
I ran the fan for about 5 to10 minutes, and I did, one time repack with more grease, maybe I'll have to keep one repacking and running the fan......
What seal are you talking about? you mean the plate that covers the ball bearings, or removing the whole thing from the shaft?
Adam
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Post by Matthew on Aug 23, 2005 19:21:12 GMT -5
What seal are you talking about? you mean the plate that covers the ball bearings, or removing the whole thing from the shaft? Adam I'd really reccomend removing the bearing from the shaft, thats how I always did it. However, with spinner motor fans they are usually pressed on there pretty good. I've only done it once on a spinner fan, and to remove the lower bearing I used a valve spring compressor to help remove it. K55 ones are easy, they slide right out. You can carefully remove the 'plate' as you refer to it with a pin, be very careful not to damage it. While the bearing seal is removed, check to see if the bearings are a shiny silver color, if they are, thats good. If they are black and look burned, thats bad.
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Post by Matthew on Aug 24, 2005 16:12:27 GMT -5
While I was parting out the evergo, i decided to tear apart the motor. Here is how I get the bearings off of the shaft: Using a valve spring compressor Oddily, the bottom bearing didnt have any seals on it!
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 24, 2005 16:56:15 GMT -5
I tried to pry off the bearings with a hammer and a screw driver, no luck. I don't have a Valve Spring Compressor, looks like that will pop them right off the shaft with no problem. Can that tool be purchased at Home Depot? Also, how would go about removing the seal? I don't have the tools, so I gave up as of right now. I have a fan I really like thats needs the bearings fixed, So I thought I would experiment with a View Fan...
I've noticed allot of Encon Crompton Greaves have bearing problems, about 95% of the ones I find, the bearings make a roaring noise....
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Post by Matthew on Aug 24, 2005 19:28:39 GMT -5
The valve spring compressor is a pricey mechanics tool. I bought it to do a valve job on my Gf's Dodge Neon. You can rent them at auto zone for a small deposit. Also, rather than repairing the bearings, it may be possible to swap them out with another fan that you dont quite like. On the face of the bearings it should have a code along the edge, usually a four to five digit code, www.gopherbearings.com sells them, but they can be a bit expensive!
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Post by Adam D. on Aug 24, 2005 21:21:19 GMT -5
Is that the same Evergo Emperor that you just posted to sell? if so, I was thinking about buying it from you. I think those are the neatest Emperors.....
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Post by Matthew on Aug 24, 2005 21:36:47 GMT -5
The motor was about to puke, and i needed the pull chain switch, reverse switch, blades and canopy.
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Post by Andrew G. on Aug 28, 2005 2:15:53 GMT -5
I have over 150 fractional horsepower motors on my basement floor, many of them have good ball bearings in them. When I need bearings for a fan when I can't do anything with the siezed up bearings, I take them from a motor I have lying around.
The only spinner motor that I had to replace bearings in was my evergo 4E-3LWSBS spinner. When I went to look at it, I discovered that it was completely waterlogged. The bearings were both totally shot. So after I found a new stator for it, I took bearings from a motor and the fan worked fine.
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