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Post by Trevor on Apr 29, 2004 20:09:26 GMT -5
Hey fellow fanattics I have some questions to ask:P nothin new! heheheh. I salvaged what I could of the chili pepper and found some nice parts! I found a single capacitor thats in fine shape. Question #1 Can this single capacitor hook up with my 36 inch original to make the motor stop humming obnoxiously? I tried a variety of options, but the noise seems to be coming from the motor itself, supporting my thoughts of this fan not having a capacitor. Is there ANY way to make this motor really quiet? I called the guys at Hunter and the new original has capacitors built in. There are also wall controls that dampen motor hum. Which is the best option? BTW thanks for the advice on my earlier post Dan!  Any advice is appreciated, as long as I don't get an affro due to my wiring skills  ! Trevor ;D ;D |
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Post by Andrew G. on Apr 30, 2004 5:33:26 GMT -5
Hey fellow fanattics I have some questions to ask:P nothin new! heheheh. I salvaged what I could of the chili pepper and found some nice parts! I found a single capacitor thats in fine shape. Question #1 Can this single capacitor hook up with my 36 inch original to make the motor stop humming obnoxiously? I tried a variety of options, but the noise seems to be coming from the motor itself, supporting my thoughts of this fan not having a capacitor. Is there ANY way to make this motor really quiet? I called the guys at Hunter and the new original has capacitors built in. There are also wall controls that dampen motor hum. Which is the best option? BTW thanks for the advice on my earlier post Dan! Any advice is appreciated, as long as I don't get an affro due to my wiring skills ! Trevor ;D ;D The older originals do not have capacitors, they're shaded pole motors. All shaded pole motors are noisy, that is a simple fact to know. The newer ones however, are PSC or perminant split capacitor. That's why they're quiet. |
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Post by Trevor on Apr 30, 2004 20:01:25 GMT -5
Hello,
Thanks for the reply. Is there any way to make the motor quiet? On a different note, can I hook this 2 speed fan to a 3 speed wall control? Does it matter the brand? Thanks,
Trevor
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Post by Andrew G. on Apr 30, 2004 21:46:46 GMT -5
Hello, Thanks for the reply. Is there any way to make the motor quiet? On a different note, can I hook this 2 speed fan to a 3 speed wall control? Does it matter the brand? Thanks, Trevor The most you could do is insulate it a little more or if the buzzing is very loud, it might have a short in one of the windings. Yes, of course you can hook a three speed switch to a two speed fan. It doesn't matter at all if you use a three, four, or even five speed wall control. You just keep the fan on high speed and go from there. The switch will make it seem like the fan has three speeds when you use the switch. In other words, the number of speeds on the switch has absolutely no effect on the fan at all. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2004 1:15:20 GMT -5
The best parts to salvage from any fan are the Capacitor, pull-chain, and screws. From non-hugger fans you should also salvage the canopy and mount.
As for hum, other than making sure the motor vibration is isolated, both from the mount and from the blades, there's not much you can do. Some shaded pole motors do have an inherant hum, as Andrew stated. I would try removing the blades and blade brackets and see if the hum is still there, if it changes, some isolation between the blade brackets and the motor would help.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2004 1:20:29 GMT -5
The most you could do is insulate it a little more or if the buzzing is very loud, it might have a short in one of the windings. Yes, of course you can hook a three speed switch to a two speed fan. It doesn't matter at all if you use a three, four, or even five speed wall control. You just keep the fan on high speed and go from there. The switch will make it seem like the fan has three speeds when you use the switch. In other words, the number of speeds on the switch has absolutely no effect on the fan at all. Ok . . . Andrew Correction Control time . . . First of all, he's talking about a hum, not a buzz. A buzz would come from loose, not shorted windings. And you cannot use most wall controls on a Hunter Original. Most wall controls are capacitor-based which will not function on a shaded-pole motor. He would need to find a transformer based control, or perhaps a solid state speed control (be careful it's easy to burn out a Hunter Original on a Solid State control, or so I've been told, and that will make it noisier not quieter anyways). For that matter, adding a control of any sort probably wont affect the hum. |
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Post by Andrew G. on May 1, 2004 8:52:59 GMT -5
yes, you are right. Most wall controls cannot be used with an original, the motor uses 1.6 AMPS and most controls are only good for 1 AMP. Yet the solid state speed control is one of the "original" control options hunter offers in their catalogs.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2004 20:47:59 GMT -5
yes, you are right. Most wall controls cannot be used with an original, the motor uses 1.6 AMPS and most controls are only good for 1 AMP. Yet the solid state speed control is one of the "original" control options hunter offers in their catalogs. Amperage isnt the reason. The fact that they use capacitors and (older) originals dont is. Hunter does offer solid state speed controls for Originals, but I doubt they drop the speed down very slow. |
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Post by brian H on May 27, 2004 10:09:22 GMT -5
if trevor'll send it here i can get it silent.
or, hunter still has some 36" isolation rings.
( was told that yesterday) i think the guy said some were in brass too.
however, i would only charge $25 to take it apart and shellac the windings you pay shipping of course.
By the way Trevor, i lost your phone number, that is why i haven't called.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2004 22:27:29 GMT -5
however, i would only charge $25 to take it apart and shellac the windings you pay shipping of course. Yes, but it'd get painted silver, 40' blade put on it, run over by a tractor, then lost in your shop. Just kidding, Brian does fine work, the fans he bakes come out golden brown! So they have any 52" isolation rings? I'd like some polished brass, also a 36" brown would be nice. You know why. |
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Post by brian H on Jun 1, 2004 10:15:17 GMT -5
lol, yes i do.... actually i just put the parts breakdown on your group, dan in the files section. remember that 1988 original i restored?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2004 10:44:05 GMT -5
lol, yes i do.... actually i just put the parts breakdown on your group, dan in the files section. remember that 1988 original i restored? What about your original? And I cant find any 52" isolation rings in thepdf file. |
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Post by brian H on Jun 3, 2004 10:32:05 GMT -5
i meant i know hunter still has some...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2004 17:29:41 GMT -5
i meant i know hunter still has some... Well I will be calling them, at, what, $10 a piece I certainly dont mind. |
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