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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2008 21:34:36 GMT -5
hey dan, do you have a picture of that spinner with the vents? i would love to see it. the last time i seen one i wanted was on ebay. it was called the showboat. brand new in the box. That was a Gulf Coast, made by Synlix. I dont have pictures of the fan I described. Adam has this motor which is similar: ![](http://www.vintageceilingfans.com/images/salvageyard_palcointernationalcorp.jpg) Mine is exactly the same, except it's white with a light kit on the bottom. Mine has identical blades to those at the start of this thread.
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Post by richieh on Mar 13, 2008 19:45:23 GMT -5
![](http://www.tradeeasy.com/photo/seller/7230/lgraphic/baseco2008.jpg) What a nasty nasty horrid fan!! Droopy blades or what?
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Post by piercetheorganist on Mar 13, 2008 19:46:30 GMT -5
That's what you get when you do business with the communist hellhole known as China.
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Post by Troy on Mar 13, 2008 19:54:09 GMT -5
that looks a gear drven fan motor
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Post by piercetheorganist on Mar 13, 2008 19:55:02 GMT -5
Of course it's not.
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Post by Andrew G. on Mar 13, 2008 19:57:22 GMT -5
I've seen one of these things with blades in a guitar shop in Ocean City, Maryland a while back. The shop was closed while I was there though, so I couldn't get a really clear view or a picture. I don't know if the fan is still there or not.
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Post by jonasclark on Mar 13, 2008 21:22:54 GMT -5
I really like this one - no vent holes, PB with the white/cane. I really like this a lot.
I've seen a magazine-order fan, and this thing posted above does look like it - so incredibly cheap - and yet I find it interesting. Whereas the crap I see at Wal-Mart actually makes me want to go grab a hockey stick from the sporting goods dept. and stick it up at 'em.
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Post by piercetheorganist on Mar 13, 2008 21:27:24 GMT -5
I really like this one - no vent holes, PB with the white/cane. I really like this a lot. I've seen a magazine-order fan, and this thing posted above does look like it - so incredibly cheap - and yet I find it interesting. Whereas the crap I see at Wal-Mart actually makes me want to go grab a hockey stick from the sporting goods dept. and stick it up at 'em. Don't you try that with any of my fans I sell at my Wal-Mart. ![](http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/organist89/2nd/c1ac0c5b.jpg)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2008 22:34:25 GMT -5
lol!
I agree the fan Richie posted looks like a magazine order, gear driven fan.
And Pierce, you have to agree that WalMart fans are best left to vandals.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Mar 14, 2008 17:11:56 GMT -5
Others countries don't complicated their self of putting : Gear Driven, Friction Dirve, Skeletal motor, Oil bath motor, K55 or XLP2000. No they just go with the simple good old Direct Drive motor that never get stuck, never need oiling or replacement parts(flywheel). The only bad thing that can happend with these motors is that over time they could results making noise. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) Before 2007 Base Concept had this fan you posted the picture with 4 oak & cane blades and four tulips lights but much more classic looking. Just classic half moon brackets, classic tulips shades, filigree on the sideband with Ge vents bottom plate. I have no idea why they changed it for a more ugly version. It looks so cheap. Pierce ARRETE de mettre des photos horribles de toi! T'est pas photogenique. ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png) And what scary about the fact that the fan is Made In China??? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png)
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Post by piercetheorganist on Mar 14, 2008 20:23:46 GMT -5
Others countries don't complicated their self of putting : Gear Driven, Friction Dirve, Skeletal motor, Oil bath motor, K55 or XLP2000. No they just go with the simple good old Direct Drive motor that never get stuck, never need oiling or replacement parts(flywheel). The only bad thing that can happend with these motors is that over time they could results making noise. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) You just advocated spinner motors? And worse, above skeletal, oil-bath, and stack motors? You just lost any shred of credibility that you ever had with me. Pierce ARRETE de mettre des photos horribles de toi! T'est pas photogenique. Casse-toi.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Mar 14, 2008 20:59:21 GMT -5
Advocated? Quest que ca veut dire? Oh non, ne me dis pas que tu parle vraiment ton francais comme ca?! ;D ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Casse toi, c vraiment une expression francaise. Trop drole. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Pourquoi t'aime ca mettre des photos de toi sur internet? Don't take that too seriously the thing about ceiling fans motors.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2008 0:27:51 GMT -5
Others countries don't complicated their self of putting : Gear Driven, Friction Dirve, Skeletal motor, Oil bath motor, K55 or XLP2000. No they just go with the simple good old Direct Drive motor that never get stuck, never need oiling or replacement parts(flywheel). The only bad thing that can happend with these motors is that over time they could results making noise. ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) And why is that? One reason is that the bearings dry up, due to overheating and bad design. And they certainly do require oiling over time.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Mar 16, 2008 1:45:31 GMT -5
Oiling a direct drive motor? I did not know you could do that.
I said that just to show you that others countries go with the simple way. That's another reason why there are no more fan made with Gear or Friction drive motor, because they a more complicated to fabricated.
But of course Emerson should make more fans with the K55 motor, Casablanca should make more fans with the XLP2000 and XLP200 motor and Hunter should still be making their Originals in the USA.
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Post by piercetheorganist on Mar 16, 2008 2:48:37 GMT -5
Oiling a direct drive motor? I did not know you could do that. Basically, you can do anything to anything, if you have enough knowledge, will, and manpower. I said that just to show you that others countries go with the simple way. No, every manufacturer goes with the least expensive way. Least expensive doesn't always mean simplest (and it certainly doesn't mean best). And what "other countries" are you talking about? All ceiling fans, regardless of which country they're sold in, are made in the same place -- the Orient (i.e. Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, India, etc.) And these days, the same motors are in fans all over the world. A fan purchased in Canada or Switzerland or Australia has the same motor as a fan purchased in the USA. Again, they're all made in the same place. A K55-motor fan with a rubber flywheel isn't "complicated", even in deference to a spinner-motor builder fan. Ceiling fans are not rocket science; they're extremely basic and primitive appliances, actually. The ceiling fan was one of the very first electrical appliances; dryers, washing machines, electric stoves, etc., these things did not exist in the mid 19th-century. A ceiling fan is nothing more than a basic small AC induction motor with some paddles stuck onto it. A rubber flywheel isn't "complicated". It's a chunk of baked tree sap. As with almost anything else, consumers have several options when it comes to purchasing ceiling fans -- and as features/quality/luxury increases, so does price. Production cost is relatively static across the board; the premium you pay is for the luxury. Where there exists an ability for a high-end version of an everyday item to exist, market economics dictate that it shall exist. Ceiling fans are no exception. Just as Mercedes-Benz made very high-end cars even though a pickup truck would get you around town just as well, Casablanca made very high-end ceiling fans even though a Hampton Bay accomplishes the same thing. All you're doing is flinging some air around a room. Casablanca was the pinnacle of luxury; no corners were cut. Beautiful wood blades, high-quality heavy-duty cast metals, thick brass platings, an Emerson K55 motor complete with rubber noise-canceling flywheel, pristine crystal glass, pioneering computerized control systems, elegant designs, lots of little touches (i.e. hand-woven tassels, downrod sheaths with rubber bushings, etc.). But that luxury came at a premium price; thanks to that idiot Reagan, jobs went overseas in the 80s faster than a black man gets to the free samples at the grand opening of a new KFC, and thus all our fans are made in crappy Oriental countries with no concept of quality control. That, and the fact that in the 1970s and early 1980s, when Casablanca was at its prime, the ceiling fan buying market (40-60 year olds) was from a generation which knew the value of appliances built with pride and the intention to last a lifetime. Now-a-days, the ceiling fan buying market (30-50 year olds) is from "the plastic generation". Need I say more. That's another reason why there are no more fan made with Gear or Friction drive motor, because they a more complicated to fabricated. No, they're not made because they're crap that no one would buy, as was proven in the 1970s. Customers vote with their pocketbooks; given the option of something better, the consumer market won't buy fans which are slow, unreliable, underpowered, complex to operate, and LOUD! Not to mention hideous...
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