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Post by Noah C on Aug 23, 2021 2:24:08 GMT -5
So, I was requested to post the fan stuff that's been going on lately....and it's a good bit. A lot of fans have been moved around, I've acquired some new ones, and some have been modified. I'll start off with the newly acquired stuff: -Casablanca Delta III, 3 speed, model 4446D in Rustic Iron. Dated Nov. 16, 2000. -Casablanca Delta III, 3 speed, model 4445D in Brushed Nickel. Dated Nov. 11, 2004. -Casablanca Ventura II, 3 speed, model 6745D in Brushed Nickel. Dated Feb. 3, 2003. -Minka Aire Supra 44", model F563-ORB in Oil Rubbed Bronze. From November 2019. -3x Monte Carlo Grand Prix, model 5GP60BS in Brushed Steel. From October 2016. The Casas are installed in Guest bdrm #1, the family room, and the breakfast nook of my house respectively. The last four have a bit of backstory. Earlier this year, my uncle bought a new house and I picked fans out for his great room and two bdrm's so he wouldn't have to buy any at a home store or spend a lot (or anything lol). I bought three Monte Carlo Grand Prix's NIB for a STEEP discount, two of which I intended to resell, as well as the smol Supra, also NIB and dirt cheap. So I gave him one of the three Monte Carlos, the 44" Supra, and my own 52" Supra. Pics: Attachment DeletedGrand Prix, installed in the Great Room. Attachment Deleted52" Supra in Brushed Steel. Installed in the Master. Attachment Deleted44" Supra in ORB. Installed in the guest bdrm. As for the other two Monte Carlos, I just sold one of 'em and the other one is in my garage until further notice. Hoping to sell it too, but I need something running in the garage at all times to keep the humidity down, and it's all I have fully working atm. More to come
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Post by Adin Panthers on Aug 23, 2021 7:44:31 GMT -5
Those are really good installs in your uncle's house. Definitely a good choice.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 23, 2021 10:09:35 GMT -5
That’s a nice combo of fans. Love the Casablancas and the Supra’s! Did your Supra’s come with the short down rod? Mine came with 6” only.
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Post by Noah C on Aug 23, 2021 17:50:19 GMT -5
Those are really good installs in your uncle's house. Definitely a good choice. Thanks! My uncle actually wanted my rustic iron Delta III for his great room but I couldn't find a downrod long enough. But when he toured the house and saw that all the hardware and appliances were stainless steel he wanted something that blended in. I'm glad I had this on hand; he basically never runs his A/C with this fan running That’s a nice combo of fans. Love the Casablancas and the Supra’s! Did your Supra’s come with the short down rod? Mine came with 6” only. Thanks a lot. I'll repost the Casablanca pics in this thread. The 52" Supra (old bedroom fan; posted about it 4 years ago) came with both 3.5" and 6" downrods but the 44" came with only the 6". Supras were briefly discontinued at the end of 2019 so Minka could clear out their extra inventory and phase out halogen for LED on the lighted ones. Since then they only come with 6" downrods so the fans can test better on EnergyGuide CFM/efficiency reports. I painted the 3.5" downrod from the 52" Supra to use on the 44".
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Post by Noah C on Aug 23, 2021 19:42:13 GMT -5
Now for the stuff that's moved around... I'm gonna have to use multiple posts to show everything because the ProBoards attachment service only lets me upload three photos per post, but that's alright. The only fan that hasn't changed is the Quorum Windsor in my dining room; it's a good fan, setting aside the usual Quorum QC foibles like clicky bearings and premature capacitor failure. Performs really well with the new capacitor though. Pic (it's filthy atm, sorry 'bout that): Attachment Deleted Probably the biggest change of everything was the Ventura II in my breakfast nook. Before it, I had my BN Delta III there for a month or so and no fan at all before that, but air cavitation basically rendered it useless and made it shudder loudly (really loud since it's on a can light converter), so finding a Ventura II with the exact same finish combo as the Delta III meant up the baby Delta went.....and GROUP INSTALL Ventura: Attachment DeletedBig n Smol: Attachment DeletedBefore I put the Delta III in the family room, I had my brushed steel 56" Emerson Heat Fan there briefly, and before that, it was a 60" Fanimation Edgewood that went through three years, a light kit addition/removal, a remote addition/removal, and a capacitor failure before getting pulled down for a makeover. More on that later. But first I've gotta get the other rearranged fans outta the way.
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Post by Adin Panthers on Aug 23, 2021 21:59:22 GMT -5
Now for the stuff that's moved around... I'm gonna have to use multiple posts to show everything because the ProBoards attachment service only lets me upload three photos per post, but that's alright. The only fan that hasn't changed is the Quorum Windsor in my dining room; it's a good fan, setting aside the usual Quorum QC foibles like clicky bearings and premature capacitor failure. Performs really well with the new capacitor though. Pic (it's filthy atm, sorry 'bout that): View Attachment Probably the biggest change of everything was the Ventura II in my breakfast nook. Before it, I had my BN Delta III there for a month or so and no fan at all before that, but air cavitation basically rendered it useless and made it shudder loudly (really loud since it's on a can light converter), so finding a Ventura II with the exact same finish combo as the Delta III meant up the baby Delta went.....and GROUP INSTALL Ventura: View AttachmentBig n Smol: View AttachmentBefore I put the Delta III in the family room, I had my brushed steel 56" Emerson Heat Fan there briefly, and before that, it was a 60" Fanimation Edgewood that went through three years, a light kit addition/removal, a remote addition/removal, and a capacitor failure before getting pulled down for a makeover. More on that later. But first I've gotta get the other rearranged fans outta the way. The Delta III and the Ventura II is definitely a good match for the big and small body fans.
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Post by Noah C on Aug 24, 2021 0:37:34 GMT -5
Now for the stuff that's moved around... I'm gonna have to use multiple posts to show everything because the ProBoards attachment service only lets me upload three photos per post, but that's alright. The only fan that hasn't changed is the Quorum Windsor in my dining room; it's a good fan, setting aside the usual Quorum QC foibles like clicky bearings and premature capacitor failure. Performs really well with the new capacitor though. Pic (it's filthy atm, sorry 'bout that): View Attachment Probably the biggest change of everything was the Ventura II in my breakfast nook. Before it, I had my BN Delta III there for a month or so and no fan at all before that, but air cavitation basically rendered it useless and made it shudder loudly (really loud since it's on a can light converter), so finding a Ventura II with the exact same finish combo as the Delta III meant up the baby Delta went.....and GROUP INSTALL Ventura: View AttachmentBig n Smol: View AttachmentBefore I put the Delta III in the family room, I had my brushed steel 56" Emerson Heat Fan there briefly, and before that, it was a 60" Fanimation Edgewood that went through three years, a light kit addition/removal, a remote addition/removal, and a capacitor failure before getting pulled down for a makeover. More on that later. But first I've gotta get the other rearranged fans outta the way. The Delta III and the Ventura II is definitely a good match for the big and small body fans. Agreed. If I were Casablanca's marketing director in the late '80s the Ventura and Lady Delta would have their names swapped.
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Post by Parkman on Aug 24, 2021 7:14:31 GMT -5
The Delta III and the Ventura II is definitely a good match for the big and small body fans. Agreed. If I were Casablanca's marketing director in the late '80s the Ventura and Lady Delta would have their names swapped. I need to comment on this thread but I’m at the dentist and just read this lol. I have always thought this!!!
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Post by Noah C on Aug 24, 2021 22:39:01 GMT -5
Picking up where I left off, we've got more of the stuff that's moved around. There used to be a Hampton Bay Dragonfly tiffany ceiling fan in the downstairs bdrm but that was replaced by a Star Propeller ceiling fan, which I reviewed here some years ago. That fan got pulled down two months ago because the polycarbonate shell around the motor was starting to yellow, so I cleaned it really well and UV-coated the outside to prevent yellowing. Thankfully it's back to clear, but I'd already swapped my Brushed Steel 56" Heat Fan in its place by the time I finished cleaning everything, so that's what's there for now. Pic: Attachment DeletedMoving upstairs to the master, the Hampton Bay Moresby Tiffany that was there for 15 years was replaced by my white 56" Heat Fan. That's the last fan you'd expect in a master bdrm but surprisingly my mom loves it. She's been totally spoiled by its performance and actually likes the basic look of it, and doesn't seem to mind the helicopter wind noise either. I don't think she'd be OK with anything other than an industrial in her room at this point Pic: Attachment DeletedAs of late last year I've had my Rustic Iron Delta III installed in Guest bdrm #1. Before it I had the 52" Brushed Steel Supra there for some time, and before that was a Hampton Bay Sauterne. This fan had a lot of weird issues when I first got it, like only running in updraft and the inner rubber rim on the flywheel scraping the top casting on the switch housing, but hardwiring the reverse switch, grinding that inner rubber rim of flywheel down, and lots of trial and error got me a fully working fan that I'm glad to have, especially since it's from 2000 and has all the transitional quirks of Casas from that year. It has the concealed hardware blade irons and XLP other Delta IIIs have but also the old style switch housing tag and visible motor housing hardware (albeit only four screws instead of seven like the Delta II's had). Pic (please excuse the flower wallpaper, I'll remove it soon I promise): Attachment DeletedNext up on the posting list is my garage fan along with a project fan I'd been working on a bit ago. I've also got another project fan in the works (guest bdrm #2), but that won't be ready to show off for a little bit since its parts have to get painted and I need to find a proper control for it. As y'all can see though quarantine has been pretty busy in terms of fans for me, especially as someone who doesn't collect fans.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 4, 2021 22:47:20 GMT -5
Time to pick up where I left off. Been busy the past week and a half so I haven't had the time to hop in here but here I am now lol 😅 Jumping right in, we've got the garage setup. At the moment it's the Grand Prix I haven't sold yet, which has been doing a great job at humidity control out there. It's got one of the best motors I've seen in a new fan to date; it's a cast aluminum, skeletal 212x25mm unit that's not only insanely powerful, but also runs very cool and has the makings for an extremely long lifespan. I increased the main capacitor from 4.5uF to 6uF to maximize the motor's output and basically turned the fan into an industrial killer in terms of air movement. Pic: Attachment DeletedNow for the fun. As some may recall, I bought a 60" Fanimation Edgewood in Tortoise Shell finish around 4 years ago. That fan was installed in my family room for three of those years, in which time I bought a matching bowl light for it (then took it off after around 2 and a half years), and added a remote kit. After being a daily runner through three scorching summers (and fall since SoCal doesn't cool off til November-ish) the main capacitor failed, and when I replaced it, I took the light and remote off the fan and never put them back. When I got the BN Delta III I took the Edgewood down and temporarily put the steel Heat Fan in its place....and that's when I decided to give it an overhaul. Fan went from this: Attachment DeletedTo this: Attachment DeletedSome may wonder: WHY would I do this? Well, because I think Tortoise Shell is hideous. And I had a set of 21" square tip blades that look way better IMO than the big, ugly 24" ones it comes with. Fan is now 54" down from 60", but that means I have more install options with it since it fits in a regular size bdrm. The new finish is matte gray/satin nickel; with gray finishes being trendy ATM I'm surprised I'm not seeing more traditional fans being refreshed with finish combos like this. I may be biased, but I love this finish combo and how everything turned out here. I also love how my speed modifications turned out on this; my biggest issue with it was always the stupid fast low speed, but that's been fixed with a much smaller low speed cap (the aesthetic low is 😍) and offset with a bigger secondary cap so medium stays fast like I like it. And of course, with its 212x25mm motor it performs like an antique; puts K55 stuff to shame. I'll probably upload a video of it in my next post since this one is LONG and I have other updates to talk about. More to come 😁
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Post by Cole D on Sept 4, 2021 22:57:16 GMT -5
All very nice. I remember that Edgewood, but I haven't heard of the Grand Prix. I'll have to look into those. I really like that round diffuser in the last pic, I was wondering though why that room has both that and the square one (behind the fan blade).
I think the Edgewood looks good in that color, the blade arms remind me of an antique fan, but I can't place what kind.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 5, 2021 3:54:11 GMT -5
All very nice. I remember that Edgewood, but I haven't heard of the Grand Prix. I'll have to look into those. I really like that round diffuser in the last pic, I was wondering though why that room has both that and the square one (behind the fan blade). I think the Edgewood looks good in that color, the blade arms remind me of an antique fan, but I can't place what kind. Thanks a lot. Grand Prix was Monte Carlo's performance builder that was recently discontinued; there's a bunch of NOS for cheap on eBay and Amazon atm. They're fugly IMO but they seriously have some of the best motors ever used in a ceiling fan. The round diffuser is for my upstairs attic/whole house fan, the square one is the regular HVAC vent. I never use the upstairs HVAC but the whole house fan gets used everyday. Again, thanks a lot, glad to hear I'm not the only one who likes the Edgewood's refresh 😅 the blade irons you're thinking of are the diamond shaped ones on antique Westinghouses like these: Attachment DeletedThey also used similar irons on A&G machinery fans like this "I-Fan": Attachment DeletedAnd modern day antique replicas like the Rejuvenation Heron use diamond brackets too: Attachment Deleted
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Post by Cole D on Sept 5, 2021 8:23:28 GMT -5
Ah yes, those are the two I was thinking of the Westinghouse and the Rejuvenation Heron. I think there's also a Kichler model inspired by that Westinghouse, which also has those brackets.
So those I Fans were made by A&G Machinery. I never heard of that company, but I always wondered who made those fans.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 5, 2021 17:14:28 GMT -5
Ah yes, those are the two I was thinking of the Westinghouse and the Rejuvenation Heron. I think there's also a Kichler model inspired by that Westinghouse, which also has those brackets. So those I Fans were made by A&G Machinery. I never heard of that company, but I always wondered who made those fans. I don't know if there was a Kichler inspired by any of those designs. I do remember the Kichler Fryst though, that was their Original copy. Yup, the I-Fans are A&G Machinery. Quirky fans, some of them came with varying sizes of K63s with flat pot metal top plates, and others came with imported, ventless CEC stack motors and top plates that matched the bottom ones. I believe they had ornate versions of them that nobody's found, along with ventless versions of the same fan. They also made belt driven stuff in the early '70s.
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Post by Noah C on Sept 18, 2021 1:47:39 GMT -5
It's truly never a dull moment dealing with ceiling fans (brace up, this one's gonna be L O N G).... Just when I thought I was done messing with fans for the near future, there were a slew of changes I was forced to make. The first change came as a rude awakening....literally. I woke up last Friday morning (my birthday morning, no less) to a loud grinding sound coming from another room. I was like "what the F is that?", so I checked the master bdrm and guest bdrm #2...no noise. Then I walked into guest bdrm #1....and there was my problematic Delta III (the rustic iron one) about to stall itself out. Its flywheel was dropped even though it hadn't failed.....weird. So down it came and in its place went my Star Propeller I've had laying around. I'd just deep cleaned and UV-coated the polycarbonate motor case so it was ready to be installed again, but I had one problem: the factory 6" rod is for 8.5' ceilings and up, and the fan was too low on my 8' bdrm ceiling. So I hung the fan temporarily with the 6" rod, celebrated my bday, and came back to it the next day. That was the beginning of even more drama.... I had a spare 4" x 1/2" I.D. rod that I could paint out for the Propeller, but the Grand Prix in my garage was using it, so my plan was to pilfer that rod and flushmount the Grand Prix. So I walk out to my garage.....and I see a heap of broken blades and the whole fan, mounting bracket and all, on the ground. I was pretty pissed about that, since that put the kibosh on me selling the fan, but I was surprised to see that the motor housing only had one dent in it and the motor shaft wasn't too bent. Thankfully I was using a set of beater blades and didn't have the switch housing installed so the original blades/brackets/switch cup were unscathed. So I hung the rig back up–this time, with one of those sturdy cast mounting brackets from early 2000's flushmountable Hampton Bays–and reinforced it with two lag bolts to each end along with the two wood screws I already had. I flushmounted and reinstalled the fan, and came away from the situation glad that A. The fan still HAULS and air cavitation didn't kill the performance, and B. I no longer have to buy an industrial for the garage. I was looking forward to putting an Agrifan or something dope in there but thinking about it, the Grand Prix does the garage beater job better than even one of those would. It gives me more clearance, I don't need an extra control for it, and it's got nearly as much performance and a better motor than an Agrifan, being that it's huge, skeletal and cast aluminum. Pic (canopy totally doesn't match but whatever): Attachment DeletedBack to the Propeller. I primed and painted the 4" rod in the closest colors I had to the fan body's gray, and even though it's not an exact color match (as you'll see in the photo), it's pretty close and in most lighting conditions you can't even tell. I'll probably touch it up at some point but it's good enough for now. I also swapped its factory 4uF capacitor for a 5uF since the 4uF was drifting, and that took this fan from great to sheer insanity in terms of performance. Glad to have this fan installed somewhere again; Star Fans makes an excellent product and the Propeller is a strong competitor to fans like the Fanimation Spitfire, Matthews Fan Co Irene/Patricia, Hinkley Sculpt/Chisel/Swell, etc. and is arguably better than those in a lot of ways. Pic (tacky flower wallpaper is tacky): Attachment DeletedIn other news, my rusty boi Delta III has been fixed (again); come to find out, the issue it's been having is a simple one: the flywheel screw wasn't in the notch on the driveshaft, so motor vibration was causing the flywheel to slip since it wasn't screwed in. Idk why but the fan's been like that since I got it. It's a shame Casablanca couldn't let you unscrew the switch housing to change the flywheel like Emerson does; the notch would've been way easier to see if I were able to remove and reinstall it. Idk if I wanna reinstall the rusty boi where the Propeller is once it's fixed, but I do want to find a place for it somewhere. I'll probably swap it in place of the steel Heat Fan. I've got other updates to post, but I think I've talked WAY more than enough here.
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