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Post by Cole S. on Jul 23, 2017 13:21:15 GMT -5
Martin here in town picked up this Sears/Emerson Friction Drive this past Cleanup Week, he's moving off to New Zealand with his parents so I went over to grab this and a bunch of his portable fans that he wasn't able to take with. It cleaned up super nice and it's one of the better-running ones I've seen with no rough spots or squeak. Still ridiculously loud, but I was even able to get a half decent speed range out of it.
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Post by Farah on Jul 23, 2017 19:13:33 GMT -5
nice fan. I'm glad that you got it. What year is that fan?
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Post by fancollector12 on Jul 24, 2017 0:25:58 GMT -5
I have a soft spot for these fans, wouldn't mind finding one someday. Of course you wouldn't put it in a bedroom or other quiet area, and they made more noise than they did move air, but they're a part of history, and shows that, in the (somewhat) struggling economy of the 1970s, Emerson did what they had to do to stay afloat, much like Chrysler (now Fiat-Chrysler) did in the mid-2000s when they were in financial trouble.
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Post by Parkman on Jul 24, 2017 8:52:44 GMT -5
The mid-2000's is what got Chrysler really into trouble because their products were cheaped out so much as well as they relied on larger vehicles aka trucks and SUV's when gas shot up. Their financial problems really started in the early 2000's when Daimler stripped them of money and assets as well as labor contracts that continued to increase throughout the years.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 24, 2017 20:14:09 GMT -5
I don't think Emerson did these to stay afloat, they were made in the blooming fan market of the late 70s when the demand was rising. Yeah, it was an opportunity to cut costs and sell cheaper units, but I think it was supposed to be more of an innovative economy approach for the consumer than anything else.
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Post by Obi-Wan Canopy on Jul 25, 2017 0:14:01 GMT -5
Why in the world would any even slightly intelligent person suggest Emerson was struggling in the 1970s?
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jul 25, 2017 4:10:30 GMT -5
Hehe you didn't get the joke. Don't get uptight for this. It has nothing to do with temperatures. I was surprised at first that you got these as I remember you say you don't like the Platinum Line much but for that price I understand. So it's really just like on the photo with a longer pole and all. Some versions have a shorter 20 cm pole and others a long one. Do these have an actual brand to them? They don't seem to have the big blue sticker on the lower canopy that the Banvils have. ? ? ? I really don't understand you a lot of the time. Kind of depends on the variant of Platinum Line/Agrifan. The version here would probably be considered my favorite, with this upper canopy and no drainage plug in the motor. I used to not like them as much, but this variant is about the same as a Gold Line for me now. Otherwise I would probably prefer a Gold Line for appearances sake, but I'd take any style Agrifan if I needed them for an actual wet location. These are labeled as 'Vosterman's Ventilation' and they call it 'Multifan'. It seems the Multifan name applies to other products in their line, it must just be more of a product classification than it is an actual model name. I don't either why you would get uptight for something like this. I don't remember seeing this model with a draining plug. I love this upper canopy too. It seems there's a version with a taller style of this canopy. What I like the most about this model are the blades and their nicely curved tips for today standards. Interesting, I don't think I had seen this label before. It seems there's a lot of possible names for them.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 28, 2017 2:35:07 GMT -5
I don't either why you would get uptight for something like this. I don't remember seeing this model with a draining plug. I love this upper canopy too. It seems there's a version with a taller style of this canopy. What I like the most about this model are the blades and their nicely curved tips for today standards. Interesting, I don't think I had seen this label before. It seems there's a lot of possible names for them. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be uptight about right now, I'm so lost. I've been trying to comprehend, but all of this makes zero sense to me at this point. You said it was a joke, I don't understand where the punch line is or what's funny other than how confused I've become. Yeah, I don't like the taller canopies or drainage plug motor quite as much. It's all in the details, I guess. They're all fine by me these days, but the ones I got are my fave. These ones in a local grocery store are essentially the same but have drainage plugs, they're actual genuine Agrifans according to the lower canopy labels. I don't have any pics that show the plugs clearly, but I can tell you with positivity they're present. When I was a kid I always wondered why they had a black dot on them. I guess they used to not have the black rubber motor band, I see Dan has a video of one that lacks it as well. So I guess they're not exactly the same, I just assumed they had the band but didn't really look into it until now. I hadn't seen this label either, I thought they might be some of those J&D things but they seem to always have the taller upper canopy.
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Post by Jordan U on Jul 28, 2017 13:54:25 GMT -5
I've been seeing a few people got into these Agrifans on eBay. I got one of these as well.. I wasn't sure if it was going to be like the picture or not so I only got one.. When it arrived and I saw it was exactly so, I went to order a few more (at this price, why not?) and they were all out.. O well..
I am contemplating installing the one I have in my computer room.. The downrod is too long for me as well.. How did you remove the downrod? Did you disconnect the wires and rewire it with new wires? On mine, it appears as though there's some type of insulating cap on the top of the downrod that will prevent the wires from being removed..
Some of you may recall I made some very vague posts across social media last fall regarding a Matthews/Atlas Kaye fan. Those blades look nearly identical to those found on the old metal Vornado fans..
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Post by Obi-Wan Canopy on Jul 28, 2017 14:04:49 GMT -5
I don't either why you would get uptight for something like this. I don't remember seeing this model with a draining plug. I love this upper canopy too. It seems there's a version with a taller style of this canopy. What I like the most about this model are the blades and their nicely curved tips for today standards. Interesting, I don't think I had seen this label before. It seems there's a lot of possible names for them. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be uptight about right now, I'm so lost. I've been trying to comprehend, but all of this makes zero sense to me at this point. You said it was a joke, I don't understand where the punch line is or what's funny other than how confused I've become. Well, you know both the French and Canadians are known for their sense of humor.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Jul 28, 2017 20:21:49 GMT -5
I don't either why you would get uptight for something like this. I don't remember seeing this model with a draining plug. I love this upper canopy too. It seems there's a version with a taller style of this canopy. What I like the most about this model are the blades and their nicely curved tips for today standards. Interesting, I don't think I had seen this label before. It seems there's a lot of possible names for them. I don't even know what I'm supposed to be uptight about right now, I'm so lost. I've been trying to comprehend, but all of this makes zero sense to me at this point. You said it was a joke, I don't understand where the punch line is or what's funny other than how confused I've become. Yeah, I don't like the taller canopies or drainage plug motor quite as much. It's all in the details, I guess. They're all fine by me these days, but the ones I got are my fave. These ones in a local grocery store are essentially the same but have drainage plugs, they're actual genuine Agrifans according to the lower canopy labels. I don't have any pics that show the plugs clearly, but I can tell you with positivity they're present. When I was a kid I always wondered why they had a black dot on them. I guess they used to not have the black rubber motor band, I see Dan has a video of one that lacks it as well. So I guess they're not exactly the same, I just assumed they had the band but didn't really look into it until now. I hadn't seen this label either, I thought they might be some of those J&D things but they seem to always have the taller upper canopy. Well I consider it a joke but for some people living in temperate climates where summer is their favorite season, like for most of people, they would consider almost taboo to hear someone saying it's already the middle of the summer when in reality it's not and it's been summer for only three weeks as mid summer is in early August (5-7th usually) but in many places the warmest temperatures are indeed in July. In other words it's not because it's the hottest temperatures that in duration, half of the summer has already gone by. '' Don't make it seem to go faster, than it already is'' For some people summer seems to be going by already so fast that they would not like to hear it said by someone when it's not the case like for example people that say that summer is over at the end of August when September still have summer weather and the equinox is on the 22 and 23rd. You are actually well placed to understand that having your birthday in the last days of summer. I hope no one ever told you that you birthday is in autumn. Hehe! After searching more I saw pictures of the one with the dot and it's not even centered on the bottom of the motor where the little tip is.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 31, 2017 22:21:59 GMT -5
I got one of these as well.. I wasn't sure if it was going to be like the picture or not so I only got one.. When it arrived and I saw it was exactly so, I went to order a few more (at this price, why not?) and they were all out.. O well..
I am contemplating installing the one I have in my computer room.. The downrod is too long for me as well.. How did you remove the downrod? Did you disconnect the wires and rewire it with new wires? On mine, it appears as though there's some type of insulating cap on the top of the downrod that will prevent the wires from being removed.. I bought one and was also going to wait to make sure it arrived as the same fan as well, but then I was afraid they'd all sell and at that price I just took the gamble. I raised the lower canopy and disconnected the wires, yes. Took the downrod off, unscrewed that insulating cap from the rod in a vise, then left the cap in the vise and yanked the wire out of it. When it's tight, the rubber gets smushed down and creates a seal, but it can be pulled out with some force. You could also just replace the wires, I didn't feel the need to do so when I could use what came with them.
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 2, 2017 11:53:46 GMT -5
I bought one and was also going to wait to make sure it arrived as the same fan as well, but then I was afraid they'd all sell and at that price I just took the gamble. I raised the lower canopy and disconnected the wires, yes. Took the downrod off, unscrewed that insulating cap from the rod in a vise, then left the cap in the vise and yanked the wire out of it. When it's tight, the rubber gets smushed down and creates a seal, but it can be pulled out with some force. You could also just replace the wires, I didn't feel the need to do so when I could use what came with them. I wish I had done the same,, even at that price if it didn't look like the picture it still would have been a good deal..
I removed the wires and the downrod, I planned to just leave that entire assembly in tact in case I do ever want to use it in a wet environment some day.. I had put on a new lead wire and then I went to attach the downrod, and much to my dismay I discovered that a 1" downrod pipe (or at least that's what I think it was) that I had on hand is about 1/2 of a millimeter too large and I just can't get it to fit in.. What size do I need to get for it?
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Post by Cole S. on Aug 2, 2017 20:55:40 GMT -5
I think any standard 3/4" fan downrod should work fine, I guess some are slightly thicker and others thinner. If you're using actual pipe instead I think it is typically a thicker wall than actual fan downrods. I don't have much assistance to offer there, I put the Envirofan downrods on mine and called it a day so I can't say if downrod A will fit and downrod B won't. I'd have to think the generic rods at the store for any of the major brands would work, I know I've used Hunter on a Gold Line before, or just take the motor with to the store and make sure of the fit if it's that uncertain.
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Post by Jordan U on Aug 2, 2017 23:23:18 GMT -5
I think any standard 3/4" fan downrod should work fine, I guess some are slightly thicker and others thinner. If you're using actual pipe instead I think it is typically a thicker wall than actual fan downrods. I don't have much assistance to offer there, I put the Envirofan downrods on mine and called it a day so I can't say if downrod A will fit and downrod B won't. I'd have to think the generic rods at the store for any of the major brands would work, I know I've used Hunter on a Gold Line before, or just take the motor with to the store and make sure of the fit if it's that uncertain. I'm not sure why I called it a pipe--its a real downrod.. It came with my Original and it fits on that fine.. I'll have to go around and fetch a 3/4"..
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