Panama Damp

[Parkman]

Been thinking about getting one of these once once I sell a couple misc. Hunters on eBay.

Would be going in my workshop/shed where I want air but an industrial is out of the question.

Has the XLP-2000 Motor, is old New Stock.

Anyone deal with one?  I mean its just a Panama with ABS blades and stainless hardware right?

[Cole S.]

I've not dealt with one, but I don't see how you could really go wrong with an XLP fan. Sounds like the little bit of extra-duty provided with a Damp is perfect for this application.

[fancollector12]

I'd get it! Like Cole said, you can't go wrong with the XLP!

[Parkman]

I went for it, it was on sale. This will replace a Harbor Breeze Calera Fan.

I have several XLP fans and know they are the best. The reason I was apprehensive was two reasons:

A. That fans with plastic blades seem to move less air.

B. How the flywheel would do in a "Damp" application but I sppose if they sold them for years it would be ok.

[Jordan U]

My XLP Panama really moves some air.. I think the damp rated one is a good choice for the location.. If you're going for performance, I'd install it with four blades, even though I prefer the appearance of 5 better..

[Parkman]

Its odd, I'm the same with you, I think Panamas look awful with 4 Blades. Casablancas kind of have that modern traditional look cause they were more cutting edge in their designs in my opinion.

This will be my first encounter with an outdoor Casablanca so I am quite excited. The Calera it replaces will be going out to a porch. I just looked at it as why buy expensive porch fans that will get beat up when you can get a better indoor fan. In this case my future workshop which I will be in alot.

[Jordan U]

Mar 3, 2016 12:12:34 GMT -5 Parkman said:

Its odd, I'm the same with you, I think Panamas look awful with 4 Blades. Casablancas kind of have that modern traditional look cause they were more cutting edge in their designs in my opinion.

This will be my first encounter with an outdoor Casablanca so I am quite excited. The Calera it replaces will be going out to a porch. I just looked at it as why buy expensive porch fans that will get beat up when you can get a better indoor fan. In this case my future workshop which I will be in alot.

I like the older Calaras in terms of appearance,, never worked with one so I can't comment on how the quality is, but I'm sure the Panama will do much better.. Can't wait to see pictures of these installs!

[Parkman]

The Calera is one of those 42" newer ones.

They are nice looking I feel unlike the 52" ones. The problem is they blow UNDER 3,000 CFM they are like 2800 or something. It looks nice but its awful.

The thing is silent as can be but you can barely feel any air. For the porch fan application I suppose it doesn't really matter as it seems that no outdoor fans really move that much air. I'm just happy I'm getting the Panama.

Will get pictures for sure!

[Jordan U]

Mar 3, 2016 14:16:50 GMT -5 Parkman said:

The Calera is one of those 42" newer ones.

They are nice looking I feel unlike the 52" ones. The problem is they blow UNDER 3,000 CFM they are like 2800 or something. It looks nice but its awful.

The thing is silent as can be but you can barely feel any air. For the porch fan application I suppose it doesn't really matter as it seems that no outdoor fans really move that much air. I'm just happy I'm getting the Panama.

Will get pictures for sure!

Does it still have the pretzel irons?

That performance is pretty disappointing, at that amount of air flow I would certainly hope there is not much noise.. There are certainly outdoor fans that move air, how about the Panama! lol I know what you mean.. I think it may have something to do with the fact that when they're installed outside they have no walls to recirculate from and are competing with the natural breeze outside, and therefor feel relatively ineffective..

[Parkman]

No its the newest style, I believe they are from 2014 or 2015.

I think you are on to something. I need wet rated fans for this application. Otherwise there are so many nicer damp rated ones I would have gone with. The wet ones though are a much simpler category in regards to choices. And I can't see paying $200 for an outdoor fan on a waterfront property that has salt air/water which you know leads to rust.

The Mariners I find to be HIDEOUS in white.  The bronze ones intrigue me is the airflow on them decent?

[Jordan U]

Mar 3, 2016 18:16:31 GMT -5 Parkman said:

No its the newest style, I believe they are from 2014 or 2015.

I think you are on to something. I need wet rated fans for this application. Otherwise there are so many nicer damp rated ones I would have gone with. The wet ones though are a much simpler category in regards to choices. And I can't see paying $200 for an outdoor fan on a waterfront property that has salt air/water which you know leads to rust.

The Mariners I find to be HIDEOUS in white.  The bronze ones intrigue me is the airflow on them decent?

The Mariner is not my favorite fan, but I find them far from hideous.. I actually somewhat like them.. I also like the Sea Air.. Have no idea about their performance, but given the time at which they were produced and Hunter's reputation at that point, I imagine they move a fair bit of air..

[Parkman]

I've searched for Sea Airs but can only find the new model ones.

[Jordan U]

Mar 3, 2016 21:47:18 GMT -5 Parkman said:

I've searched for Sea Airs but can only find the new model ones.

The only thing that I can tell has changed is the irons--they went to that new ridiculous shape.. There may be a difference in the motor, this certainly would not surprise me,, but here is what the older models looked like:

[Parkman]

The motors have definitely been downgraded in them... Everything in any post 2011 Hunter has been. Not necessarily sizes have changed since its a full size fan but the quality of them is down as well as the finish on the motor. I've seen so many brand new Hunters come out of the box with scratches on the motor then you install it and URNNNNN or tick tick tick tick...

Its seems there standard 172 motors are the best while their 188's and 153's start clicking and making bearing noise within three or four years. Now Casablancas larger motors I'm not so sure about..

I owned a Concentra before and that was no Panama by any means, it hummed LOUD and off it went.

[Jordan U]

Mar 4, 2016 7:21:03 GMT -5 Parkman said:

The motors have definitely been downgraded in them... Everything in any post 2011 Hunter has been. Not necessarily sizes have changed since its a full size fan but the quality of them is down as well as the finish on the motor. I've seen so many brand new Hunters come out of the box with scratches on the motor then you install it and URNNNNN or tick tick tick tick...

Its seems there standard 172 motors are the best while their 188's and 153's start clicking and making bearing noise within three or four years. Now Casablancas larger motors I'm not so sure about..

I owned a Concentra before and that was no Panama by any means, it hummed LOUD and off it went.

I bought a Beacon Hill, it was right around 2011, maybe a little sooner,, don't really remember.. Either way, it was a 'tick tick tick tick' model.. Opened the motor housing and found that there was a nick in the motor which was catching on the cloth covering the vents inside the housing.. Glued down the cloth so it was away from the motor, and the ticking went away.. The bearings still made some clicking noises occasionally,, but they were only really audible at night.. I got fed up with that pretty quickly, and that was when I replaced it with the Panama.. The Panama has bearing noise also,, but its the continuous whirring type, shouldn't be there, but not particularly annoying and easily ignored..