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Post by Noah C on Feb 9, 2016 14:19:15 GMT -5
They have 5 of them at my local buffalo wild wings and another 8 at some desolate building nearby. They put out average air, and most of them have mangled, twisted blade arms. Craftmade makes high quality stuff, but their outdoor fans are garbage, metal wise. All the cracker barrels I have seen with these outside have mangled blade arms. This is unrelated, but the CXLs at a fish house about 25 minutes away from me all have straight blades, and there is a steak house in the same plaza with 8 decoratives (5 blade only) and 6 presidential IIs, none of which have mangled, broken anything. Stick to indoor if you go craftmade anything.
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Post by Parkman on Feb 9, 2016 15:51:24 GMT -5
Thats the problem I'm seeing with lots of outdoor fans. I was thinking about the Harbor Breeze Caleras cause I'd rather spend $80 x 2 = $160 and get fans that if they get mangled its not a huge loss rather than put out $400 every couple years or so. Then with the savings get better indoor fans
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Post by Noah C on Feb 9, 2016 18:07:10 GMT -5
Thats the problem I'm seeing with lots of outdoor fans. I was thinking about the Harbor Breeze Caleras cause I'd rather spend $80 x 2 = $160 and get fans that if they get mangled its not a huge loss rather than put out $400 every couple years or so. Then with the savings get better indoor fans In that case, then I would go with a damp rated fan like the Fanimation Aire decor outdoor for $130 shown here: Could you show me some pics of the installation location? Unless the fans are going to be mounted on a lattice style/open patio and are going to be in a location where the air is salty, then this is what I would get. These are about a notch above a builder, and move quite a good amount of air. Quality wise, being Fanimation, they are top of their respective segment and much better than, say, a craftmade. Motor is 153×15, not very big at 2,295mm².
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Post by John Shelley on Feb 9, 2016 19:44:35 GMT -5
And tied in price with the carrera veranda above this at $219 is the Emerson sea breeze (aka outdoor designer), with a (small) 188×12 motor; It moves 6,500 CFM. It'll probably have the shortest lifetime of all the listed fans in my posts so far, though. (The motor is only 2,256 square mm, about the same size as the builder can standard 153×15, at 2,295 square mm). Pic in a separate post. not to criticizing your sizing thing but shouldn't we been looking for the volume of the irons which is this ((thinkness)x(pi)x(diameter)^2 )/4 not just simply thickness times diameter (note the pi and divide by 4 part nor not really needed for comparing the relative sizes) also note that specs they gave on most fans are the OD and thickness of the rotor I once saw a k55 specked as 85x33 mm, clearly the size of the rotor.
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Post by Noah C on Feb 9, 2016 20:26:29 GMT -5
And tied in price with the carrera veranda above this at $219 is the Emerson sea breeze (aka outdoor designer), with a (small) 188×12 motor; It moves 6,500 CFM. It'll probably have the shortest lifetime of all the listed fans in my posts so far, though. (The motor is only 2,256 square mm, about the same size as the builder can standard 153×15, at 2,295 square mm). Pic in a separate post. not to criticizing your sizing thing but shouldn't we been looking for the volume of the irons which is this ((thinkness)x(pi)x(diameter)^2 )/4 not just simply thickness times diameter (note the pi and divide by 4 part nor not really needed for comparing the relative sizes) also note that specs they gave on most fans are the OD and thickness of the rotor I once saw a k55 specked as 85x33 mm, clearly the size of the rotor. C'mon dude, you specialize at this stuff. I don't know the fancy, most accurate formulas for the inner workings of the motors. Thanks for the input, but I wouldn't remember anything you said for crap. Not that I'm coming down on your knowledge of motor structure but I cannot memorize that stuff.
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Post by John Shelley on Feb 9, 2016 20:31:03 GMT -5
not to criticizing your sizing thing but shouldn't we been looking for the volume of the irons which is this ((thinkness)x(pi)x(diameter)^2 )/4 not just simply thickness times diameter (note the pi and divide by 4 part nor not really needed for comparing the relative sizes) also note that specs they gave on most fans are the OD and thickness of the rotor I once saw a k55 specked as 85x33 mm, clearly the size of the rotor. C'mon dude, you specialize at this stuff. I don't know the fancy, most accurate formulas for the inner workings of the motors. Thanks for the input, but I wouldn't remember anything you said for crap. Not that I'm coming down on your knowledge of motor structure but I cannot memorize that stuff. the simple way is to multiply the diameter by itself first then times the thickness..... there are so many factors though that affect the power of a motor but it is safe to say that more iron is almost always better than less
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Post by Noah C on Feb 9, 2016 20:35:10 GMT -5
C'mon dude, you specialize at this stuff. I don't know the fancy, most accurate formulas for the inner workings of the motors. Thanks for the input, but I wouldn't remember anything you said for crap. Not that I'm coming down on your knowledge of motor structure but I cannot memorize that stuff. the simple way is to multiply the diameter by itself first then times the thickness..... there are so many factors though that affect the power of a motor but it is safe to say that more iron is almost always better than less What iron? Please elaborate
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Post by Parkman on Feb 9, 2016 21:50:46 GMT -5
Talked to my relative today. Gonna go with Caleras BUT are gonna use the money saved to upgrade the fans in the house to quality fans!
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Post by Noah C on Feb 9, 2016 22:20:48 GMT -5
Talked to my relative today. Gonna go with Caleras BUT are gonna use the money saved to upgrade the fans in the house to quality fans! U have pics? I could give you suggestions on what to install in the house. Would not have gone with caleras, but you saved a fair bit of money, so it worked.
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Post by fancollector12 on Feb 10, 2016 0:37:46 GMT -5
No...
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Post by Noah C on Feb 10, 2016 2:03:23 GMT -5
What do you mean? No as in the solution wasn't a good one, or no as in I was wrong in the entirety of what I stated?
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Post by Parkman on Feb 10, 2016 11:30:29 GMT -5
In reality the fans will rarely be used. Its more to have the light kit on them they are doing this set up. They ended up going with the 42" models.
Its salt air so they will probably get replaced every four years or so. Again why I didn't push for an expensive fan for this set up.
I have another relative who was gonna get some $300 Casablanca outdoor fan but I talked to her into 42" Gazebos cause the wind and all. Shes actually more happy with the Hampton Bays. This is the only time I would push someone into one rather than a quality brand fan.
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Post by Parkman on Feb 10, 2016 17:21:26 GMT -5
Official update: 3 Harbor Breeze Caleras for the porch!
NOS Panama Damp potentially now being purchased for another room.
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Post by Noah C on Feb 10, 2016 23:51:10 GMT -5
Official update: 3 Harbor Breeze Caleras for the porch! NOS Panama Damp potentially now being purchased for another room. Anything I could help you select for the interior? Would like to help more.
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Post by Parkman on Feb 11, 2016 10:30:54 GMT -5
Official update: 3 Harbor Breeze Caleras for the porch! NOS Panama Damp potentially now being purchased for another room. Anything I could help you select for the interior? Would like to help more. I appreciate the offer. I'm good for now, getting a 4 Speed Panama XLP for the one requirement room and might do use my NIB Palm Air Hugger for another.
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