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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 27, 2015 18:58:42 GMT -5
Oui! At last! Two months ago I got this awesome Quatre Saisons via Kijiji. It was located in Trois-Rivières. At the same time it was on Kijiji, I was visited by someone from the United States that was doing a road trip so I was able to pick the fan easily because at the same time this friend wanted to visit at least one city other than Montréal so we also went to Trois-Rivières. It's one of the fan I've been looking for the most in a long time. In December 2011 I found the small, 90 cm version. Now I finally have the medium size, 120 cm that is so difficult to find. I love the proportions of these fans in this size. I discovered that the medium size version uses the same motor as the 140 cm version and that the big motor is rated at 1.25 amps so it's an insanely powerful fan. It had a very long extension pole that I cut and I also repainted it because it was very scratched. The bearings were initially very stiff and it could not handle a speed slower than 100 rpms. After some oiling and letting spin the motor bladeless for a while it could eventually handle a speed around 50-60 rpms. I had it installed in my bedroom for two weeks now and it's performance has improved furthermore. It can now handle a speed as slow as 30 rpms so now it even works with the Westinghouse 4-speed slider. The bearings still has an audible sound because of their condition but that doesn't bother me very much. It doesn't have much of audible hum, it's very quiet on that side. I've been wanting to try a metal blade fan in my room for a while and if there was one that I had to try it's definitely was this one. Not only because it's one of my favorite metal blade fan and and a very important childhood fan but also because this one doesn't mount with a J-hook and is neither too big or too small for my room. The size could not be better. Blades included I get only seven kilos on the scale which is not very heavy for a fan of this age and such a powerful fan. It's now my most powerful fan surpassing my brown Evergo and all of my Casablancas. Here it is in motion and I show in detail the sticker on top of the motor that shows the amperage and the blade span size the motor is made for. Pictures very soon.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 27, 2015 21:44:13 GMT -5
Very nice! The low speed is perfect.. and the high speed is insane! Would you ever consider replacing the bearings to get rid of the noise?
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 27, 2015 21:52:32 GMT -5
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 27, 2015 22:01:31 GMT -5
Very nice! The low speed is perfect.. and the high speed is insane! Would you ever consider replacing the bearings to get rid of the noise? Thanks, it is indeed. I really think that in terms of rpms it surpasses anything I have that is at least 107 cm. In terms of power, it's my most powerful ceiling fan. No, I don't think I would replace the bearings in it, I tried to open the motor and it seems too difficult and it would probably damage the shell of the motor if I would go that far. The bearing noise doesn't bother much and anyways at 60 rpms or less we don't hear it much. What would have bothered me would have been a humming noise which this one doesn't have. It's bedroom certified. I have to add that on higher speeds, the wind noise is a little different than a three blader. It sounds a little less like an helicopter. I added the pictures above and I corrected some mistakes and typos in the first post.
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Post by Max C. on Oct 27, 2015 22:33:42 GMT -5
Awesome to see you have finally aquired one of these! This definitely suits your room. In all honestly, I do not mind a slight amount of noise when a fan is in operation...
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 27, 2015 23:07:00 GMT -5
Awesome to see you have finally aquired one of these! This definitely suits your room. In all honestly, I do not mind a slight amount of noise when a fan is in operation... Hummm yes indeed! I've been searching one for so long! It doesn't even look out of place in my room. I miss the time that we could walk around Montréal and see them quite easily in stores. Now the places that are still likely to have them are churches. For me is depends what kind of sound. A shhhhhhhhhh bearings sound I don't mind much, it's almost relaxing in a way, but a electric humming sound would bother me.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 28, 2015 14:41:41 GMT -5
For rpms with the Westinghouse 4-speed slider I get speed that are about: 30/100/200/330+...
The lowest setting can be slightly faster (30-35) sometimes because the performance of the fan increases always a little more it seems.
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Post by Jordan U on Oct 28, 2015 14:47:42 GMT -5
Thanks, it is indeed. I really think that in terms of rpms it surpasses anything I have that is at least 107 cm. In terms of power, it's my most powerful ceiling fan. No, I don't think I would replace the bearings in it, I tried to open the motor and it seems to difficult and it would probably damage the shell of the motor is I would go that far. the bearing noise doesn't bother much and anyways at 60 rpms or less we don't ear it much. What would have bothered me would have been a humming noise which this one doesn't have. It's bedroom certified. I have to add that on higher speeds, the wind noise is a little different than a three blader. It sounds a little less like an helicopter. I added the pictures above and I corrected some mistakes and typos in the first post. I've tried to replace the bearings in spinner fans before and it was very difficult.. I couldn't get the bearings out and ended leaving it as it was.. Seems like its more worth replacing the bearings if its a stack motor fan.. While I don't like fans that make noise, I'd agree about the noise types, a consistent bearing whir is far less annoying then an electrical hertz hum or the like..
Do you notice that the air flow is smoother than that from a 3 blade fan?
The pictures look nice!
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Oct 28, 2015 15:44:00 GMT -5
Thanks, it is indeed. I really think that in terms of rpms it surpasses anything I have that is at least 107 cm. In terms of power, it's my most powerful ceiling fan. No, I don't think I would replace the bearings in it, I tried to open the motor and it seems to difficult and it would probably damage the shell of the motor is I would go that far. the bearing noise doesn't bother much and anyways at 60 rpms or less we don't ear it much. What would have bothered me would have been a humming noise which this one doesn't have. It's bedroom certified. I have to add that on higher speeds, the wind noise is a little different than a three blader. It sounds a little less like an helicopter. I added the pictures above and I corrected some mistakes and typos in the first post. I've tried to replace the bearings in spinner fans before and it was very difficult.. I couldn't get the bearings out and ended leaving it as it was.. Seems like its more worth replacing the bearings if its a stack motor fan.. While I don't like fans that make noise, I'd agree about the noise types, a consistent bearing whir is far less annoying then an electrical hertz hum or the like..
Do you notice that the air flow is smoother than that from a 3 blade fan?
The pictures look nice!Yes, the air flow is a little smoother than a three blader. Thanks.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 4, 2015 0:54:19 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 1:41:16 GMT -5
Good luck getting them, it's funny when a fan that you haven't seen for a while a lot of the time more end up showing up at the same period of time.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 4, 2015 1:48:40 GMT -5
I love that fan.. Funny how I've only seen that canopy and motor combination in Canada.. Those canopies are always on Palcos, fanaires, and Deluxe mfg of sorts.. Never on a DEMC or Commander made fan..
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 4, 2015 3:18:36 GMT -5
I love that fan.. Funny how I've only seen that canopy and motor combination in Canada.. Those canopies are always on Palcos, fanaires, and Deluxe mfg of sorts.. Never on a DEMC or Commander made fan.. Humm yes interesting. Although the ones seen on Palcos, Fan-Aires and Deluxe, the canopy is shaped very slightly differently. Notice all of these were made in Hong Kong and Quatre Saisons were made in Taiwan. This is the standard canopy for metal blade Quatre Saisons and as you can see in the link it also came in a metal version that is slightly narrower and of course doesn't yellow over time. The flat canopy was used a lot by Quatre Saisons too but mostly on wood blade fans. I have seen some metal blade Quatre Saisons with the flat canopy but they are not common. Notice that this flat canopy also came in both a metal and a plastic version.
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Post by Jean Lemieux on Nov 4, 2015 3:19:55 GMT -5
Good luck getting them, it's funny when a fan that you haven't seen for a while a lot of the time more end up showing up at the same period of time. Yes, that it very odd how it happens this way. I will definitely not complain. I love these fans and particularly in that size.
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Post by Adam D. on Nov 4, 2015 4:01:17 GMT -5
I do too.. I also don't think I've seen these motors with 4 metal blades in the USA either..
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