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Post by jborchel on Apr 17, 2015 13:05:01 GMT -5
I have one I am trying to remove. However, I'm not sure how to remove it as the ceiling cap is very hard to remove. I loosened the one screw but the cap doesn't want to twist loose. It seems to have crimping indentations around the top edge next to the sheetrock but these don't seem like they were done with a hammer and tap after the fact. Can anyone tell me how to loosen this thing or point me to a video or description of how to get this cap off?
Also, does this old fan have the same ball and cradle mounting mechanism as the two that I have recently installed in other rooms?
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Post by Cole S. on Apr 18, 2015 0:23:49 GMT -5
You're on the right track, usually they're super loose and just want to come falling off but it looks like yours is pretty set against the ceiling. It is as simple as it looks, the set screw has to be loosened and then the canopy rotated, the indentations are from the factory and line up with notches in the mounting bracket to keep the canopy in place. I'm thinking you've just gotta get a good grip and twist hard counter-clockwise.
The ball/socket bracket is probably similar to what you've worked with on the other fans. Homestead's version is a little larger, and has a crossbar inside the canopy that needs to be removed before the ball can be lifted out of the socket, just FYI in case you missed it being there and were cranking on it trying to get it out with the crossbar still in place.
Love that fan, by the way. I love anything by Homestead, really neat installation here.
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Post by Jordan U on Apr 18, 2015 23:19:28 GMT -5
I've never worked on one of these before so I can't comment specifically, but generally speaking it looks like the canopy is unusually close to the ceiling. It may help to push up while trying to turn it, the sheet rock may be pushing it down against the screw preventing it from turning.
I have to say this is a gorgeous fan in a very, very cool install!
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Post by jborchel on Apr 19, 2015 16:49:10 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, they installed it too close to the ceiling so that it doesn't really produce much air in either direction. I'm trying to remove the fan so I can get to the power. I'm trying to extend the power towards the rear of the room so I can hang a small video projector from the ceiling. I can't get power to the spot without ripping a lot of sheet rock. If I can remove the fan and still not get power to the new location because of ceiling joists, I will buy a longer extension shaft and install that. Is that not my problem of not getting air. The fan is too close to the ceiling?
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Post by Cole S. on Apr 19, 2015 22:04:15 GMT -5
Yes, like Jordan said it's particularly tight against the ceiling, which is standard for these but usually they're not this troublesome. Have you removed the screw completely? That would probably help it to not bind up on anything.
The installation, while neat, is really not optimal for air movement. There's very little room between the blades and beams, which restricts airflow. I'm not sure if I understand your intentions correctly, but if you're looking to lengthen the downrod on the fan you're going to have a bit of trouble finding a suitable replacement. Homestead fans of this nature utilize a unique plug-in quick connect downrod that has the supply wires built into it. There's a chance I would maybe be able to help you out in the way of another rod, however I'm not sure yet as it's a work in progress at the moment and it wouldn't be finalized for some weeks still.
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Post by jborchel on Apr 20, 2015 19:13:31 GMT -5
Yes, like Jordan said it's particularly tight against the ceiling, which is standard for these but usually they're not this troublesome. Have you removed the screw completely? That would probably help it to not bind up on anything. The installation, while neat, is really not optimal for air movement. There's very little room between the blades and beams, which restricts airflow. I'm not sure if I understand your intentions correctly, but if you're looking to lengthen the downrod on the fan you're going to have a bit of trouble finding a suitable replacement. Homestead fans of this nature utilize a unique plug-in quick connect downrod that has the supply wires built into it. There's a chance I would maybe be able to help you out in the way of another rod, however I'm not sure yet as it's a work in progress at the moment and it wouldn't be finalized for some weeks still. Wow! I didn't know that about the rod having power wires integrated. However, if I'm successful in stringing power from the fan connection to my projector location I wouldn't be able to drop the fan lower because it would get in the way of the projected picture. In that case I have to decide if I want to leave the fan in its ineffective position or remove it altogether. Hoprfully some of the hints here will work and I will at least be able to dismount the fan. Then my next challenge will be to see if the power fan box it removable. I have to be able to get my hand up into the attic space to see if I can feed the romex over to the projector location. There is no crawl space above the room. |
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Post by jborchel on Apr 20, 2015 19:13:54 GMT -5
Wow! I didn't know that about the rod having power wires integrated. However, if I'm successful in stringing power from the fan connection to my projector location I wouldn't be able to drop the fan lower because it would get in the way of the projected picture. In that case I have to decide if I want to leave the fan in its ineffective position or remove it altogether. Hoprfully some of the hints here will work and I will at least be able to dismount the fan. Then my next challenge will be to see if the power fan box it removable. I have to be able to get my hand up into the attic space to see if I can feed the romex over to the projector location. There is no crawl space above the room.
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Post by Cole S. on Apr 20, 2015 19:40:52 GMT -5
Ah, totally understand on what you're trying to accomplish now. Hope you'll be able to get the fan down now, it's really amazing to me that it's quite that stuck because when I work with these, I've hardly loosened the screw and the canopy just comes tumbling down lol.
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Post by Cullen D. on Apr 21, 2015 17:03:11 GMT -5
If I were you I'd take the blades off before taking it down. Setting it down fully assembled will bend the blade arms.
Also, do NOT throw this fan out. It is a quality vintage fan. It would be better to sell it on eBay.
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Post by jborchel on Apr 21, 2015 19:12:18 GMT -5
Thank you all. I am on the road until the 29th but will attack it with renewed vigor when I return.
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Post by jborchel on Jun 24, 2015 19:46:03 GMT -5
Cole S.,
I've decided to try to mount this fan back in it's original place but with a 12" downrod. You are right. The wires are imbedded in the rod. However, it looks like it is a plug in the one end and it looks like it could be pried out with a screwdriver. Before I do that though I would like to ask two questions:
1. Will the plug pry out or will I damage it trying?
2. If I'm successful is a 12" rod enough drop to get some down draft going?
Appreciate your help.
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Post by Max C. on Jun 24, 2015 19:49:46 GMT -5
Cole S., I've decided to try to mount this fan back in it's original place but with a 12" downrod. You are right. The wires are imbedded in the rod. However, it looks like it is a plug in the one end and it looks like it could be pried out with a screwdriver. Before I do that though I would like to ask two questions: 1. Will the plug pry out or will I damage it trying? 2. If I'm successful is a 12" rod enough drop to get some down draft going? Appreciate your help. The answer to question number two would be yes. A 12" downrod would most definitely help with airflow. |
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Post by Cole S. on Jun 24, 2015 21:09:37 GMT -5
The plug end will probably pry out and you can add wire extensions, just be careful not to deform the plug in any way. The issue is putting it in a new downrod, I'm not sure exactly what options you'll have that will fit in the motor coupler. Typically the standard 3/4" rods will be too thick to fit. The only way to really find out is to try I guess, it's not like you have a ton of options here. Just a thought here, I'm thinking getting brass tubing like in the following link and cutting to your desired length might work better than a conventional 3/4" downrod from Home Depot, etc: www.antiquelampco.com/Catalog/BrassTubing.htm You can look around for better prices on 3/4 polished brass lighting tubing too, I just picked that link because it looks like it's a little thicker stuff, too thin and it might tear over time and cause the fan to fall. As Max said, pretty much any longer rod will absolutely help get the clearance you need. |
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Post by jborchel on Jun 25, 2015 16:59:37 GMT -5
Got it apart. I will check with Home Depot and Lowes tomorrow to see if they have a rod that will work.
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Post by Cole S. on Jul 5, 2015 0:10:40 GMT -5
I disappeared off the face of the earth a bit there, sorry about that. Just wanted to check if there were any updates.
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