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Post by Jordan U on Feb 13, 2015 22:55:33 GMT -5
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Post by Dob on Feb 14, 2015 14:37:52 GMT -5
Even with that older motor, these things are crap. The blades fold up under high speeds and it makes a whole lot of noise while not producing much wind.
The 80's HV12 is your best bet, or if you wanna go one step better, get the Patton U2-1287.
Or...if you really must have a small circulator with a blade of 10" or under, you can go for a 7" Vornado or those 5 blade 10" Mimar fans. Loud, but they have loads of power.
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 16, 2015 7:50:47 GMT -5
I would have to disagree, I think these are pretty solid fans. I have one from the early 2000s, it's not the quietest thing out there on the higher speeds but for the amount of air it throws out it's not bad at all. Unlike most of the plastic blade fans of today, I don't notice any problem with the blades flexing as it runs.
I have a Patton U2-1887, I really want to get a U2-1287 to go with it. They seem to come up on eBay pretty often, but I've been waiting to try to find one locally to avoid eBays inflated prices plus shipping.
I'm sure a classic Vornado of the same size would outperform these any day, but that's an unfair comparison, vintage Vornados are in a category of their own.
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Post by Dob on Feb 16, 2015 18:02:25 GMT -5
I would have to disagree, I think these are pretty solid fans. I have one from the early 2000s, it's not the quietest thing out there on the higher speeds but for the amount of air it throws out it's not bad at all. Unlike most of the plastic blade fans of today, I don't notice any problem with the blades flexing as it runs. I have a Patton U2-1887, I really want to get a U2-1287 to go with it. They seem to come up on eBay pretty often, but I've been waiting to try to find one locally to avoid eBays inflated prices plus shipping. I'm sure a classic Vornado of the same size would outperform these any day, but that's an unfair comparison, vintage Vornados are in a category of their own. An unfair comparison, indeed but both are still circulators. The Patton is a more comparable fan being a more modern circulator. They even made one with a an 8" blade that's pretty powerful with a user-friendly motor. I have dealt with many of those newer Lakewood motors and once they overheat, that's it. The thermal fuse is buried in the windings and not replaceable. They love to quit in hot weather because the motor already runs extremely hot, from my experience anyway. This really bugs me because a fan is designed to provide cooling and air circulation in hot weather. What good is it if it fails in hot weather?
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 16, 2015 18:10:57 GMT -5
Depends on the fan. My HV-9 runs remarkably cool. After hours of running its just lukewarm. On the contrary, I know the newer HV-18 model gets pretty hot after a while because the motor is terribly undersized. This is not a problem that just plagues Lakewood though, its across pretty much all modern fans now.
Unlike the older Lakewood motors, the new ones no longer have resetting thermal switches. They have thermal fuses, which as you stated, once they get too hot, that's the end of it. Replacing the fuse is a long and tedious process.
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Post by Dob on Feb 20, 2015 9:28:41 GMT -5
Zach has tried a 9" ILG blade on an HV9 and the fan couldn't handle the extra pitch/weight...which really wasn't all that big of a difference. A good tell-tale sign that the motor is pretty weak. If they had used a regular common Fasco motor or similar, that ILG blade would have spun up to full speed. The fan struggled terribly and the blade wasn't even spinning in the right direction, so it would have had less drag anyway. Ever since then, I really have lost my respect for any Lakewood product. The last of the good fans was made back in the 80's (Not counting the round blade HV series). Lasko was superior in the 90's and then both companies really went to !@!#$ in the late 90's to today. www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfN86lui6gk
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Post by Jordan U on Feb 21, 2015 12:45:22 GMT -5
They're not fantastic units compared to what real fans (80s and prior) are, but for what they are today I still think they're not too bad. Lakewood's prime days were definitely back in the 70s and 80s, same with Lasko and most other manufactures. The round blade HV series seem to have thermal fuse problems a lot, even though the motors are of a decent size.
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