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Jul 30, 2014 23:03:50 GMT -5
Post by Max C. on Jul 30, 2014 23:03:50 GMT -5
The only difference is that Hampton Bay's perform a lot better! Oh yeah. In the documentary "The Light Bulb Conspiracy", they talk about how light bulb manufacturers intentionally make weak filaments so people buy have to more bulbs. For fans though, this only started in the past 12-years. Before it used to be that if something broke (flywheel, pull chain, blade bracket, capacitor or electronics) you would try every possible method of repair to get it working again. Nowadays, you can just buy a new "better" looking Hunter for half the cost of repair. Ceiling fans started getting noticeably cheap going back into the early 1990s.. Much thinner blades, made out of particle board.. Tuna can motor housings, Etc. Recycling started in the 1988.. And technically it started around that time.. I don't things got "really" bad until about the early 2000's though. Even back in the 90's, you could buy an economy Hunter or Hampton Bay and be confident it would go at least 10 years trouble free. These days that just isn't the case, especially with these super small motor's Hunter is using!
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Aug 1, 2014 3:24:19 GMT -5
Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 1, 2014 3:24:19 GMT -5
No need to explain all that. I was just saying that if there's something you don't like, don't destroy it, give it to someone else or donate it to an economy store. I know some people that would have been happy having that Hunter fan.
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Aug 1, 2014 11:59:09 GMT -5
Post by Daniel G. on Aug 1, 2014 11:59:09 GMT -5
I know some people that would have been happy having that Hunter fan. The garbage men?
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Aug 1, 2014 14:48:10 GMT -5
Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 1, 2014 14:48:10 GMT -5
I know some people that would have been happy having that Hunter fan. The garbage men? No, people living below the poverty line in a climate that get around 45°C in the shade in April.
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Aug 2, 2014 12:12:36 GMT -5
Post by Max C. on Aug 2, 2014 12:12:36 GMT -5
No, people living below the poverty line in a climate that get around 45°C in the shade in April. Jean, I do believe you are a very intelligent and knowledgeable guy, but I just don't feel you really thought this one through. Here is a previous post I made: Think of it this way, Wal-Mart buys a fan from China for $5.00. They in turn sell it to the customer for about $20.00. Wal-Mart's objective is to make money (hence the huge price increase) so they buy the cheapest quality fans possible. This is a strategic plan because if the average Joe buys one of these cheap fans, he install it and, it's going break in a year. So, he buys another one, and the cycle goes on. Now guess what happens to these fans? They're now in the garbage and it's going to end up being smashed in a landfill regardless. Companies like Wal-Mart like it this way because people buy their cheap crap, and when it breaks and/or goes out of style, they have to buy more of their cheap crap to replace it. So what the guy in the video and Daniel are doing really isn't sad in itself, it's the fact that we've come to this level of cheapness in the first place. Basically, my point is that the problems of waste are never going to be fixed if companies like Wal-Mart are around, because their cheap crap will have to get replaced with more cheap crap and eventually thrown away regardless. What Daniel and the guy in the video are doing is just a slightly quicker version of these cheap fans' eventual disposal.
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Aug 2, 2014 13:27:00 GMT -5
Post by Adam D. on Aug 2, 2014 13:27:00 GMT -5
It's like making something as cheap as possible and get the most as possible out of it.. It's called capitalism at it's best.. There's no heart and soul put into things anymore, it's only about the $$$..
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Aug 2, 2014 14:57:43 GMT -5
Post by Max C. on Aug 2, 2014 14:57:43 GMT -5
It's like making something as cheap as possible and get the most as possible out of it.. It's called capitalism at it's best.. There's no heart and soul put into things anymore, it's only about the $$$.. I wouldn't say at it's best. America has been a Capitalist nation for hundreds of years, but it wasn't until the late 80's that manufacturers really caught on to the fact that people can be sold on buying new products when something breaks. So, in turn, companies started making cheaper and cheaper quality products to make more and more money.
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Aug 6, 2014 6:59:47 GMT -5
Post by xenonunderground on Aug 6, 2014 6:59:47 GMT -5
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Aug 6, 2014 16:35:12 GMT -5
Post by Max C. on Aug 6, 2014 16:35:12 GMT -5
No, people living below the poverty line in a climate that get around 45°C in the shade in April. No, the garbage men is right. That fan wouldn't even last a week in 45°C (113°F) heat with 80% humidity!
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Aug 6, 2014 23:09:34 GMT -5
Post by Jean Lemieux on Aug 6, 2014 23:09:34 GMT -5
No, people living below the poverty line in a climate that get around 45°C in the shade in April. No, the garbage men is right. That fan wouldn't even last a week in 45°C (113°F) heat with 80% humidity! There's no humidity in the Sahel in April, it's the peak of the dry season. I've seen fans much cheaper than that Hunter doing good at 45°.
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Aug 6, 2014 23:36:15 GMT -5
Post by Max C. on Aug 6, 2014 23:36:15 GMT -5
No, the garbage men is right. That fan wouldn't even last a week in 45°C (113°F) heat with 80% humidity! There's no humidity in the Sahel in April, it's the peak of the dry season. I've seen fans much cheaper than that Hunter doing good at 45°. I was talking about a humid climate obviously. And why give anybody rich or poor a cheap fan when it will ultimatley lead to doing them a disservice. Take this fan. I could sell it, but I know that the people buying it wouldn't be truly happy with it, nor would I be happy about selling it to anybody. So I choose to scrap it. End of discussion.
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