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Post by davide on Jun 9, 2011 16:48:29 GMT -5
Hello all, This is my first post. I have three Hunter Fans from 1991 that operate on remote controls. Model number 25736. While I detest the remotes I am determined not to add to the landfills, so I'm soliciting your help to rewire these perfectly functional fans for standard 3-speed pull-chain operation. Before you tell me it's not worth it I will say that I am determined and I'm willing to blow up one of the fans in my attempts.  Does anyone have any switch housings from early 1990s hunter fans and if so can you confirm that the capacitors and the switches connect to the motor housing through a 9-Pin molex connector? If so please tell me the model number as I suspect the switch housings were the only thing different between the remote and the non remote models. The Receivers are Rhine UC7848R units. If anyone wants the receivers and the remotes and can help me out with regular pull-chain operation you can have them. You send me what I need to pull a chain and I'll send you what you need to push a button. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 16:59:18 GMT -5
Post a picture of the fans.
First thing is to determine if the start/run capacitor is part of the receiver or if it is separate in the housing.
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Post by davide on Jun 9, 2011 17:33:50 GMT -5
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Post by Andrew G. on Jun 9, 2011 18:03:45 GMT -5
In theory, you could probably find someone with a wad of electronics (pullchain, reverse switch, capacitors) from a doner fan which would match up with the connector. You would need to modify the switch housing in order to accommodate the pullchain and reverse switch, though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 18:04:13 GMT -5
Studio Series Remote.
All I can suggest is do what I have done in the past: reverse engineer the receiver and replicate it's switches with hard wired switches. You will need all of the large AC capacitors. I see two. You will need two switches, a DPDT switch for forward/reverse and a SP3T for speed selection.
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Post by davide on Jun 9, 2011 18:44:49 GMT -5
Mr. Neumann,
That's exactly what I hope to do. Reverse engineer the receiver.
Can you point me to a schematic that would assist me in doing so?
I've never dealt with ceiling fans before.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 22:15:28 GMT -5
There are no schematics that I know of. Luckily, the parts that you would need to reproduce are very simple. Just the 2 AC caps and two switches.
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Post by davide on Jun 10, 2011 12:58:28 GMT -5
On the receiver there are three identical capacitors. 5uF, 250WV.AC Coming from the fan motor are six wires: Black and White = 120VAC, straight from the house power. Then there are these four other wires... PINK GREY RED YELLOW (Plus the antenna wire which we do not have to think about.) I have a multi-meter which does DCV, ACV, DCmA, ACmA, Impedance, etc. - How do I determine which is the run pair and which is the aux/start pair for the motor?
- How do I determine which capacitors are in the circuit for any given speed setting using only my available multi-meter?
Sorry for the noob question, it's probably obvious by now that I do not really know what I'm doing.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 13:32:24 GMT -5
Your meter wont help you.
You need to examine the circuits on the receiver and duplicate them with hard wired switches rather than RF operated switches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 13:34:55 GMT -5
I'll give you a start: pink and yellow go to the reverse switch. So does white and one other color-- I dont remember the fourth color. The reverse switch will have 6 wires of 4 different colors.
Grey goes to position 1 on the pullchain/speed switch
Red goes to red on the start/run capacitor. The other two capacitors are for speed control.
This should get you started!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 19:50:13 GMT -5
Black/hot goes to the pullchain switch.
Grey connects to the high speed on the pullchain switch (in other words, connects to hot for high) and also connects to the center contact of one side of the reverse switch.
Red goes to one side of the start/run capacitor.
White/neutral goes to the center contact of the other side of the reverse switch.
Pink and yellow go to the remaining contacts of the reverse switch.
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Post by davide on Jun 19, 2011 21:36:55 GMT -5
I had some time today and rewired one of the fans according to this schematic I found online.  I had to order the switch in the mail as I couldn't source it locally. I have one problem still to solve: Currently, "Hi" is reversed from Med and Low.Are the capacitors are polarized?! That might be my problem right there. Check out my 6-Pin molex retrofit NO THANKS to Hunter Fan Company.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 22:21:35 GMT -5
THAT SCHEMATIC IS NOT A HUNTER FAN. I WOULD NOT TRUST IT ON A HUNTER FAN.
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Post by davide on Jun 19, 2011 22:33:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2011 22:58:00 GMT -5
I dont see anywhere where that article says it's a Hunter.
Here's another idea. Call Hunter, tell them you have a Studio Series the NON remote version, and you need replacement electronics. BAM! Done.
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